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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, let me turn that to Mr. Courtoreille. He may have that information available.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Mr. Courtoreille.

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Courtoreille

Thank you, Madam Chair. There is a total of $2.7 million in projects that are not being carried over and being lapsed. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Yeah, thanks. So I think I heard $2.7 million. That doesn't seem to jive with the information we have available to us, but yeah, is that information publicly available somewhere? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, with respect to project -- sorry, let me turn that one to the deputy minister if I could, please. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Deputy minister.

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Mackay

Thank you, Madam Chair. If I understand the question correctly, the question was -- maybe I could just ask for clarification. Do you want to know what projects specifically are not being -- are lapsing or not being completed, or do you want to know how much money that represents? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. I believe it's the amount. Just to confirm, Member for Frame Lake.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Madam Chair, I'm sorry, I don't know how we've managed to lose the train of thought here. I think we were looking for one answer and then another question came in. So can I just get -- I'm sorry, but what is the question that we're looking for the answer on now, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Member for Frame Lake, can you just repeat your question in full.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair, while the clock is ticking. I guess I wanted to know how much of the capital estimates that were approved in 2022-2023 were not carried over and where does the public find out this information, like the amount as well as a list of the projects? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. So, Madam Chair, any changes to the capital plan from last year haven't been approved so there's nothing new available. Obviously, as new items are approved for -- I mean, obviously if the supplementary appropriations get approved, then those changes can be made and they'd be -- they could be reflected, but at this point it's difficult to make something public that's not yet actually a fact. Obviously as we go forward, every time there's a new capital plan that certainly has to be updated for that, you know, going forward this August when we have a new capital plan, the state of projects would have to be updated at that point in order to be approved for 2024-2025. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Okay, thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Yeah, thanks. Yeah, this is really murky. So I think I'm going to move on because I'm not really getting answers here. But if this supplementary appropriation is approved, what's the total capital funding then that the Legislative Assembly's authorized for 2023-2024? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know we have that total here. Let me start with the deputy minister, and we will have that available.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Deputy minister MacKay.

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Mackay

So thank you, Madam Chair. The total -- so the total capital budget now will be approximately $534 million. I'm just looking for the exact amount. But maybe, Terence, do you have that?

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Mr. Courtoreille.

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Courtoreille

Thank you, Madam Chair. So the total approved capital budget for 2023-2024 is $326 million. And if the current proposed carryover of $129 million is approved, it would be added to that $326 million. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Lesa Semmler

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Yeah, thanks. I wasn't -- didn't have any calculator but we're talking about $500 million. So how does this differ from the capital estimates and the sups that have been happening in the past when, you know, I think this is where -- we're in the same ballpark now, when the new Fiscal Responsibility Policy was supposed to impose like a $260 million cap on capital spending. And so now the department's asking us to approve sups that are going to push it up over that amount; am I getting this correct? Thank you.