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Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you. There will still be roles within the ministry and the department as well as, you know, actually -- and so there will be -- within the authorities, there will be more clarified roles and who's doing -- and the operations and so, yes, there will be still authority -- or a department straddling of how they work together. Thank you.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Is there a way we can monitor whether or not we've done a good job at this? I know there's a lot of things around reforming health care and systems that it's hard to point to a specific tangible outcome but at some point, we have to know whether we've done it well or not, right, whether we've achieved our goal of transforming the system in a positive way. Are there indicators that you can point to, or is the plan to sort of survey stakeholders and staff, or how will we know whether we've done the job that we set out to do in this case? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

If I may get a clarification, are you just speaking specifically in this -- in the public health section? Okay. If I may, I'll pass it on to the deputy minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the deputy minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Joanne Cecchetto

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, as we -- as the Minister has noted, while we wouldn't transfer all of the functions completely to the three health authorities for pop health or public health, because there are functions that do need to continue in the ministry from a strategic perspective as an example, and so as that function is transitioning, we will continue to monitor the success of that. At the end of the day, one of the challenges, from a client outcome perspective, when it comes to population health that shouldn't necessarily be -- that shouldn't change in the sense that it's really about how programs and services are delivered. And at the end of the day, the outcomes for clients should not be impacted by the health authority and the department determining roles and responsibilities, because ultimately the services that are being delivered to clients will continue to exist. So I'm not sure if that helps provide a bit of explanation.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Yeah, thanks for that. I mean, I guess what I was getting at was are we expecting to save money at the end of the day by sorting out some of the roles and responsibilities? Are we expecting to have more effective responses, for example, to outbreaks of certain contagious infections or diseases and can we set some indicators that can show that we will have improvements in, like, how quickly we can contain, you know, contagious outbreaks of something or other, or get test kits to communities, or are we going to be saving money? Are any of those things included in the indicators of monitoring what we're trying to do? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, within public health and population health, the main goal is to have people working in the frontline for the health promotion piece. You know, we go out -- when you look at, you know, the things that fall under there, is immunization. We need to make sure that, you know, people -- our immunization rates are up so that means that we're seeing less of those diseases. When we think about population health in that same area is TB. You know, we had a -- like we talked about, we had a recent TB break. We should be able to manage those and better -- you know, on our surveillance and so doing more surveillance. So how it will be measured is we will see decrease in, you know, communicable diseases and that goes from all of those things that our vaccinations provide. And so if there is ways to, you know -- if it is -- it's not necessarily a cost saving thing. It's more an efficient of how people are working within the system so that they're better being able to reduce those instances. So better client outcomes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Okay, thank you for that. That is good to hear confirmation that those kinds of tangible outcomes to people's health and how outbreaks are contained, that that will be monitored and included.

I just want to turn my last little bit here to community mental wellness and addictions recovery. So does this line item include detox; you know, either detox beds in facilities or detox services offered in some other way? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'll go to the Minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I will pass that to the ADM for the detail in that section.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. I'm going to go back to the ADM.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Jeannie Mathison

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I believe the funding associated with detox beds would be captured under the hospital services line, because that's where they're existing. But it is in this activity for sure. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Next on my list to speak is the Member from Great Slave

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd also like to ask some questions about population and public health services.

As the Minister knows, there has been difficulty keeping the level of staff needed to provide COVID and flu vaccinations outside of the flu clinic that I think happened here in Yellowknife in November. I've also had constituents reach out and say, you know, I want to get vaccinations for travel, and that's not a possibility right now. I think that that was work to be resolved recently, which is great. So I guess my question is how are we planning to build capacity in vaccinations? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Lesa Semmler

Lesa Semmler Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, you know, I think with what happened with the reduced services and what happened within Yellowknife, we've had a couple of times where we've had reduced services in the public health unit and where they've had to focus their staff were to make -- ensuring that, you know, children immunizations, routine immunizations were being completed, as well as working on the TB situation that we currently had. As well as they've had vacancies. However, I do know that there are some -- they are in the process of bringing on some new staff in that area. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to the Minister for that. When it comes to outbreaks, which of course we don't want to see but, you know, have seen as recently as last year with the TB outbreaks as the Minister mentioned, how are we addressing surge capacity for public health to go out and address outbreaks as they arise? That's an area of concern I'm hearing about. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Minister.