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Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Turn to page 4 for the Department of Environment and Climate Change.

The Department of Environment and Climate Change, operations expenditures, corporate management, not previously authorized, $260,000. Are there any questions?

I am going to go to the Member from Great Slave.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And, yeah, not to put this all on the Department of Environment and Climate Change; this is a recurrent cost throughout many departments. I believe it's in the range of $3.5 million in TSC chargebacks across government in this supplementary estimate. Can the Minister tell me if this is representing good value for money, or what can be done to maintain and manage these costs? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Firstly, yes, investments in having technology that is modern and secure is good value for money. Only in the last few years, really, we brought a lot of our systems up to speed with respect to cyber security from a place where they were, you know, really behind a lot of other jurisdictions in Canada to being at the front end of what's available for cyber security requirements. And given the impact on people's information, on data on the services they depend upon, I would suggest that is very important.

With respect to that said, some of the -- some of the drivers of the cost fees or the costs, Mr. Chair, there's much higher licensing costs that we are facing from a number of the different services that we rely upon, so everything from Microsoft to Adobe, and there's very limited ability, particularly for a small jurisdiction, to try to negotiate that down. That said, Mr. Chair, there's some, I think, very active conversations with larger jurisdictions in Canada, particularly the federal government, around ways to better provide some economies of scale for jurisdictions such as ours. Thank you.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go back to the Member from Great Slave.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Kate Reid

Kate Reid Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Nothing further.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Are there any further questions? Seeing no further questions.

Department of Environment and Climate Change, corporate management, not previously authorized, $260,000. Does committee agree?

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Department of Environment and Climate Change, operations expenditures, environmental management and monitoring and climate change, not previously authorized, $36,000. Are there any questions? Seeing no further questions.

Department of Environment and Climate Change, environmental management monitoring and climate change, not previously authorized, $36,000. Does committee agree?

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Department of Environment and Climate Change, operations expenditures, wildlife and forest management, not previously authorized, $18,191,000. Does committee agree?

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Are there any questions? Seeing no further questions.

Department of Environment and Climate Change -- oh sorry, my apologies. I will go to the Member from Yellowknife North.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I first wanted to ask if the Minister has any details on the Canadian biomass mapping initiative contribution program clean fuels funds agreement. I understand that this is fully offset by the federal government, but I wondered if the Minister had a quick description of what this is about. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So this is cost-shared. It does have some input from ECE, but that is through their existing work that they do. They're able to provide in kind to offset the funding requirement or funding proportion that is directed to them or expected from them. The program funds are for technical work such as high-resolution enhanced forest inventory, particularly in the area surrounding Fort Providence, as well as improving on modeling in the Taiga Plains ecozone. All of which is meant to help modernize some of our data that is now into the 10 to 30 years old range with respect to what is going on in these regions and the biodiversity and bioeconomy of those areas. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. I will go back to the Member from Yellowknife North.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Okay, thanks to the Minister for that. It's something that I will address hopefully later this week in some statement and questions about biomass economic opportunities.

I also just wanted to ask about -- so the shortfalls in fire suppression. We see $18 million coming in this supp. My understanding is that this is the second supplementary request that has come in this fiscal year for fire suppression. Can the Minister remind us, including this $18 million, what would be the total request for supplementary funds for fire suppression in the 2025-2026 year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to Minister.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At this point, we're anticipating just shy of $80.5 million. There's an original budget of $20.9 million, and there was a supplementary appropriation this past fall and some recoveries, but all of which together totals out, as I say, to about just shy of $80.5. Thank you.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. I will go back to the Member from Yellowknife North.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Shauna Morgan

Shauna Morgan Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. And so given the previous patterns of the federal government paying us back essentially for fire suppression efforts, does the Minister have an estimate of how much of this we expect we might get repaid from the federal government in time? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So that work is actively underway right now to make the determination between both ECC, who are responsible for the fire suppression directly, but also MACA who would have a role in terms of emergency systems and emergency planning. It does take a bit of time. The federal system is fairly particular about what they expect and the reporting that they expect. And so I don't have that number right now but certainly would, of course, be reporting it in to the House when it is available, Mr. Chair. And certainly to temper expectations, it is not all of this money that would come in; it would be typically when a fire is -- and the fire suppression efforts are in relation to a community or somewhat -- or, like, assets. Thank you.

Committee Motion 137-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 453-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 10th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Member from Yellowknife North.