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Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

We're still on 100 and 101, correct? Okay, the question I have is fire damage compensation, 100 grants available to hunters or trappers to replace equipment lost as a result of forest fires. Can you tell me how many people have applied for it last year. Thank you.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Jay MacDonald

Jay MacDonald Thebacha

Thank you. So I can go back and give you data for a couple of years. So 55 claims totaling $990,670 were received for the 2023 wildfire season. For 2024 wildfire season, five claims were received for $89,436. In the 2025-2026 fire -- oh, harvesters disaster assistance, sorry. There's no data on 2025-2026. We're still compiling that data.

I can give you numbers on the harvesters disaster assistance program. So for 2025-2026, no claims under this program were submitted. In 2024-2025, two claims were submitted. And in 2023-2024, we provided $700,000 to support harvesters after the Peel River flood. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Member from Deh Cho.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Okay. Those numbers will be somewhere. So it's just for harvesters. It's not so much for people that just have cabins out on the land?

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Minister.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Jay MacDonald

Jay MacDonald Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yeah, so the program is designed to support people that have some level of income from that activity. So whether it's from -- you know, trapping I will use as an example. A certain percentage of their income would need to come from that to be eligible for the program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. I will go to the Member from Deh Cho.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't have any further questions. Thank you.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. Is there any further questions? Okay, please turn to page 99.

Environment and Climate Change, wildlife and forest management, $81,601,000. Does the committee agree?

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Thank you. There are additional information items on pages 103 to 111. Are there any questions? None. Moving on. Thank you.

Members, please return now to the department summary found on page 73 with information items on pages 74 to 80. Are there any questions? Seeing no further questions, committee, I will now call on the department summary.

Environment and Climate Change, operations expenditures, total department, 2026-2027 Main Estimates, $145,745,000. Does the committee agree?

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. Thank you, Minister, and thanks to the witnesses for appearing before us. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses from the chambers. Thank you.

I am going to go to the Member from the Deh Cho

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

Sheryl Yakeleya

Sheryl Yakeleya Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that committee rise and report progress.

Committee Motion 138-20(1): Concurrence Motion - Tabled Document 454-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures and Borrowing Authorization), No. 3, 2025-2026, Carried
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

February 11th

The Chair

The Chair Richard Edjericon

Okay, thank you. There's a motion in order. The motion is non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress. Thank you.

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

February 11th, 2026

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

February 11th

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Tabled Document 448-20(1), Tabled Document 453-20(1), Tabled Document 454-20(1), and would like to report progress with two motions carried and that the consideration of Tabled Documents 453-20(1), 454-20(1) is concluded and the House concurs and those estimates and that the appropriation bill to be based on thereon be introduced without delay. And, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Report Of Committee Of The Whole

February 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Can I have a seconder? Member from the Deh Cho. All those in favour, please raise their hand. All those opposed? Abstentions? Motion passed.

Reports on Committee of the Whole. Member from the Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Point Of Order
Point Of Order

February 11th

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise on a point of order. Earlier today, the Premier breached the rule of the Legislative Assembly contrary to section 3.2. In a debate, the Speaker will call on Member to order. If the Member each makes allegation against another Member, a house officer, a witness, or a Member of the public: (i) imputes false or hidden motives to another Member; (j) another Member while uttering deliberate falsehood. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Point Of Order
Point Of Order

February 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh, did you wish to speak further on your point of order?

Point Of Order
Point Of Order

February 11th

Richard Edjericon

Richard Edjericon Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

In response to my oral questions, the Premier said, thank you, Mr. Speaker. While I don't accept the premise of the Member's question that we do uphold the spirit of consensus government, Ministers appear in front of committee, committee gives feedback to Ministers, Ministers go and give direction to the departments informed that feedback just because a Member is not getting everything they want or they made promises that the Minister can't deliver -- deliver on for them, it doesn't mean that we're not fulfilling the promise of a consensus government, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Furthermore, the Premier also stated I am very confident in the Minister of health, and when I travel around the territory and I meet with different leaders, including Indigenous leaders from the Member's own riding, they go out of their way to tell me what a good job the Minister is doing and how much faith they have in her.

Stating that, I made a promise that the Minister can't deliver on and further suggesting that Indigenous leaders from a Member's own riding disagree with my line of questioning are clear allegations against me, suggesting that I am motivated by a personal gain and also that I am intentionally misrepresenting the interests of leaders in the Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh riding in pursuing questioning against a Member of the executive council concerning treaty rights and the concerns of my constituents with respect to medical travel.

As per Appendix D of the rules of the objectives of question period is (a) is equal for Regular Members to raise individual concerns of constituents; (b) as an opportunity for the House as a whole to probe the actions of the executive; and (c) as means of illuminating the difference of opinions on the policies of the executive on a major issue and judging that parliamentary skills of the individual Members of the House that I and many Dene Metis treaty people who I represent have different opinions on government Members' fidelity to Treaty 8 and 11 should be subject to allegation by the Premier.

Raised in the concerns are my Dene Metis constituents around both provision and medical care and treaty -- sorry, treaty right obligations are equally valid lines of questioning and should be cast in the doubt by allegations.

Furthermore, it is not the Premier's place to speak for Akaitcho leaders, nor is it acceptable to suggest that any one Indigenous leaders' confidence in particular Minister's performance is sufficient to discharge treaty obligations from the Crown. Without further evidence being provided is a direct allegation that can easily be perceived as an attempt to discredit my line of questioning.

In summary, the Premier doesn't have to like that I am holding government to account with my questions, but that does not give him the privilege to cause disorder by suggesting that I am motivated by a personal gain or deliberately misrepresenting the wishes of my leaders. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Point Of Order
Point Of Order

February 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Thank you, Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Mr. Premier.

Point Of Order
Point Of Order

February 11th

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So I never -- so there's a number of different things going on here. I will address them as I kind of remember them.

So I have heard from -- I have actually heard from leaders in the Member's riding who have told me one thing. I don't think it's a point of order for me to get up here and say that. So I think that one is, you know, an easy one.

I don't speak for the Akaitcho leaders. I've never said I do. So I don't know where that one came from.

I was trying to discredit his line of questioning because I don't think it's a very credible line of questioning. I didn't accept the premise of what he was saying, and so that was the entire point of my comments. And if that is the point of order and you rule that a point of order, I would be happy to apologize and withdraw those remarks, but I don't see that as a point of order.

In terms of personal gain, I said that -- if I recall, I said that the Member -- just because the Member's not getting what he wants, I don't think that's an accusation of personal gain or that he is -- the Minister can't fulfill promises that he's made, I don't see how that's a personal gain.

So I will say, Mr. Speaker, that the debate in this House has been a little testy. There's been a lot of misinformation, and not intentional. I am not saying anyone's lying; I am just saying the information being stated in the House needed correction, and so I did make an attempt to correct it. But I don't think that is a point of order.

So I am happy to hear your ruling on this and hear what has to be said on it. But if the -- if you would like to allow debate, I would rather just apologize and close this off because I don't want to sit here and waste everyone's time listening to, you know -- to comments that might not have a lot of value, just given the -- what's been going on in this House here. So I will leave it with you, Mr. Speaker. I have faith in your abilities. Thank you.

Point Of Order
Point Of Order

February 11th

The Speaker

The Speaker Shane Thompson

Okay. Colleagues, I am going to take this under advisement, and I will come back at a later date. Thank you.

Reports on Committee of the Whole. Third reading of bills. Orders of the day, Mr. Clerk.