Roles

In the Legislative Assembly

Elsewhere

Historical Information Samuel Gargan is no longer a member of the Legislative Assembly.

Last in the Legislative Assembly December 1999, as MLA for Deh Cho

Lost his last election, in 1999, with 37% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Motion 34-12(1): Construction Of A Garage In Kakisa December 15th, 1991

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I have no problems with the motion except to mention that the government, during the last Assembly, did spend a substantial amount of money -- at least the Executive Council did -- in communities that are the equivalent size of Kakisa. I can refer to Colville Lake, which in 1988 had $55,000 planning money; $450,000 for the school itself; and another $20,000 for landscaping, et cetera. In a three-year span, there was over half a million dollars spent on a small community like that.

I do not think Members should be too concerned about which region it comes from. Basically, suggest that if the need is there it should be built. What I am suggesting in this case is that we do have equipment that needs to be stored. It is not as if the equipment does not exist. I have no problem with the amendment.

Motion 34-12(1): Construction Of A Garage In Kakisa December 15th, 1991

Presently under MACA they have a small sewage pump-out system and a small water delivery system that you could pull behind a vehicle. They also have a suburban. They also have a garbage truck, but they do not have any place for storage of that equipment. I brought it up last summer that we were having problems with storage space with regard to those capital projects that the government realizes cost quite a bit of money to get. The water delivery system, for example, they do deliver water but the ice keeps building up in the tank and eventually you have no use for the equipment itself because there is no storage space to thaw out the equipment. They have a small one-bay garage as part of the old band office that they store the garbage truck in. But it is also in cold storage. It does not help the vehicle in extremely cold temperatures.

Basically I would hope the government would look at this one with more of a priority, since the government did invest quite a bit of money on equipment to the community. I would be concerned that the equipment could be damaged by ice when the water freezes in the equipment. I would hope the community could look at this.

I also believe the dry chemical truck which is now located in Enterprise would be also going to Kakisa. But that would also require storage space which is non-existent at this point in time. I believe the need is there for that. I would ask Mr. Allooloo to fill the Members in on the rest.

Motion 34-12(1): Construction Of A Garage In Kakisa December 15th, 1991

Mr. Speaker:

WHEREAS the settlement of Kakisa has a number of vehicles and equipment;

AND WHEREAS these vehicles are needed to provide maintenance and services to the community;

AND WHEREAS there is no facility to store the vehicles and equipment;

AND WHEREAS the five-year capital plan of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has no provision for the construction of a garage in Kakisa;

NOW THEREFORE, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for North Slave, that this Legislative Assembly recommends that the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs consider allocating funds for the construction of a garage in Kakisa as a high priority in the department's capital plan.

Motion 32-12(1): Adult Education Centre, Hay River Reserve December 15th, 1991

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Antoine is absolutely right in suggesting that the reserve is not requesting a capital project as opposed to that they have an adult education centre. The band office is now working on building a new band office. This is not a new band office; it is an old town hall building that was in Pine Point, that they have relocated, torn down and are rebuilding on the reserve. So if anybody goes to the reserve you will find the new band office, as referred to, has all been built by second-hand lumber that was used for the old town hall in Pine Point.

The motion is straight forward. The band council has met with Mr. Ron Holtorf several times in November and another time in October. They have requested that they discuss with the Department of Public Works and other GNWT people the matter of utilizing the present band office as an adult education centre.

So it is basically hoping that through this motion the government would be compelled to consider the band office, which would be vacant this coming fall, as an adult education centre, with some minor renovations.

Motion 30-12(1): Small School For The Settlement Of Kakisa December 15th, 1991

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Member for Yellowknife Centre making this motion. Mr. Speaker, it was only four years ago that the first school was established in Kakisa. They do have a resident teacher that lives in the trailer, and they have built a small portion to the

trailer that they are using right now as a small classroom for the students.

Before that, Mr. Speaker, students in Kakisa used to go to Fort Simpson. That was pretty hard on the parents as well as on the students themselves. The only time they actually had the opportunity to go home was during Christmas and Easter and during the summer months. This is the first time that they had a small school.

I had written a letter to the Minister of Education before Mr. Allooloo became Minister. When Mr. Kakfwi was Minister, he did get a small school in his constituency of Colville Lake, which is the equivalent size of Kakisa. It was on that basis that I asked the Minister at that time to consider Kakisa for a small school.

Mr. Speaker, the intent of the motion is not that the school should be constructed this summer, but I would like the government to seriously look at Kakisa's need and perhaps look at the possibility of having a small school constructed during the next four years. We also have a lot of adults in Kakisa that are full-time trappers that really did not have a formal education; we even have young people at my age that did not have that much opportunity to go to elementary or high school, that would like to learn, and perhaps this would give them an opportunity. Presently, even though they do have a literacy program in the rest of the communities, Kakisa does not have that because there is no place to have such a program. So I would like to ask the Members to support the motion.

Motion 26-12(1): Contribution To The NWT Council For Disabled Persons December 15th, 1991

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to first of all apologize to Mr. Lewis for not being here when I seconded his motion, but I, too, support the motion. I know that Mr. Whitford did say that it might be difficult to find the necessary moneys to make a contribution for the disabled persons' building project, but I believe that as part of the capital plan the Minister could perhaps allocate a designated amount. Perhaps that might be the answer to making a contribution, unless the government wants to sponsor the whole project 100 per cent. I believe the intent of the motion is that there are moneys that the Council for Disabled Persons have already received, and they need further contributions. I believe that is what it is. I fully support the motion, and I would like the rest of the Members to do the same thing. Thank you.

Motion 39-12(1): Appointment Of Languages Commissioner December 15th, 1991

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I had the opportunity during the weekend to meet with the Deh Cho Tribal Council, and one of the difficulties with regard to the languages commissioner is although the act itself looks at seven aboriginal languages, we have here an individual that is of non-aboriginal descent. She is not born in the North but has lived in the North and developed the skill through experience. She has also, perhaps, been funded by this government to develop that skill that is required.

Having a master's degree in linguistics does not mean you can apply the Official Languages Act, and the application of the act itself is more important than the qualifications of an individual. I would like to say I am not going to support the motion. It was the Deh Cho Regional Council that suggested I should not support it. If you are going to be promoting aboriginal languages, you should have an aboriginal person.

Notice Of Motion 41-12(1): Establishment Of A Tax Reform Commission December 15th, 1991

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Wednesday, December 18th, I will move the following motion: Now therefore, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha, that this Legislative Assembly support the establishment of a tax reform commission for the NWT; and further, that the Minister of Finance and cabinet prepare a prospective terms of reference for the tax reform commission to be presented for approval to the Legislative Assembly during the second session. Thank you.

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents December 15th, 1991

I would like to table Tabled Document 26-12(1), Submissions to the Legislative Assembly, by Alan R. Regel and Thomas Boyd, regarding legal aid.

Question W9-12(1): Affirmative Action Hiring Record Of Workers' Compensation Board December 15th, 1991

Mr. Speaker, can the Minister advise the House whether there is even one person at the managerial level or above who is of aboriginal descent? Would the Minister be able to advise the House how many more aboriginal persons are working at the Workers' Compensation Board now, as compared to the number in December 1988?