Mrs. Groenewegen.
Territorial Leadership Committee on Nov. 20th, 1995
Transcript of meeting #1 for Territorial Leadership Committee in the 13th Assembly.
The winning word was chairman.
On the agenda
MLAs speaking
Resignation Of Ministers
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
I certainly agree with everything that Mr. Morin has said. I would expect Cabinet Ministers to be role models. I would be very concerned about any behaviour on the part of a Minister that could be classified as immoral, illegal or unethical. I would expect the code of conduct to be very high. Thank you.
Resignation Of Ministers
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mr. Henry, third question.
Premier's Accomplishments
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Mr. Chairman, my final question again directed to both candidates for Premier; I would like them, each in tum, to project themselves forward four years and look back and tell me the two most important things that you have achieved in your term as Premier.
Premier's Accomplishments
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Mrs. Groenewegen.
Premier's Accomplishments
Nominations For Premier
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you for that question, Mr. Chairman. I can't even project myself ahead four minutes.
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Four years and what would I look back on and consider worthy accomplishments. I think it would be a worthy accomplishment to have this House today elect a Premier and Cabinet Ministers who would perform so well that we would have the same group in office at the end of this session, as opposed to the scenario we had last time where there were people coming and going. It's been referred to as a revolving door. I would be proud if that team could be elected and stay together for the duration. That's one thing that I would be proud of.
I guess I would also be very proud if we significantly address our fiscal challenges that are before us right now, and then when division actually takes place we can see that happen without a tremendous amount of liabilities, that we have to figure out how we're going to divide. I would be happy to divide the assets; I hope that we don't have liabilities to divide at the end of this session. Thank you.
Premier's Accomplishments
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mr. Morin.
Premier's Accomplishments
Nominations For Premier
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you. Four years from now, I hope we're all sitting here saying good-bye to each other, basically saying that we enjoyed working together, working together as a team and working together for the people of the Northwest Territories, and that we're also patting ourselves on the back saying that it was good that Nunavut happened on time, at the right time and it happened fairly smoothly. We also would be patting ourselves on the back saying we balanced the budget, we didn't go into a deficit. We managed to balance it not on the backs of the people, but we managed to balance it by good, new initiatives. And also we managed to create a lot of jobs in the Northwest Territories at the same time. Thank you.
Premier's Accomplishments
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mr. Steen, followed by Mr. Antoine. Mr. Steen.
Negotiated Contracts Vs Public Tendering
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have four questions for both candidates. My first question is bearing in mind the forecasted deficit, what are the views with regard to negotiated contracts versus the public tender process?
Negotiated Contracts Vs Public Tendering
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mr. Morin.
Negotiated Contracts Vs Public Tendering
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As Members all know who previously worked with me in the past, I am a strong supporter of negotiated contracts and I will continue to be a strong supporter of negotiated contracts. To me, negotiated contracts are another way to say block funding. For example, the city of Yellowknife gets block funding to carry out its municipal affairs in the community, they have a big Yellowknife city department. The Hay River town council has block funding from this government and they have their own forces to do it. Aboriginal people in a small community, we'll block fund them wherever possible and they can carry out the work themselves. That's how I look at it.
There are three golden rules that I followed in the past four years' negotiating contracts: you have to have political peace; you have to have community support; you have to benefit northerners 100 per cent; and, you have to come in on budget. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Negotiated Contracts Vs Public Tendering
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mrs. Groenewegen.
Negotiated Contracts Vs Public Tendering
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Election Of Premier
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My position on negotiated contracts versus the public tendering process is that in some cases negotiated contracts are necessary and they are good. Negotiated contracts can do things like create an economic base in communities where there may not be an economy going on at that time. Negotiated contracts can cause things to come into being, such as a lot of the manufacturing that goes on in my constituency. But I guess the rules, as I would see them, that I would look at when looking at negotiated contracts is I would look at market disruption; is someone else already in that business. To me, to negotiate a contract to create jobs in a community where you might create three jobs but put three other people out of work is not a net increase; it's not a net benefit. So negotiated contracts, where there is a net increase in jobs, where there is no market disruption caused, where it facilitates the establishment of a viable economy, or it facilitates the establishment of a new industry that has not previously existed in the North and facilitates manufacturing and things such as that that would offset imports from the South, I would fully support negotiated contracts. Thank you.
Negotiated Contracts Vs Public Tendering
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Your second question, Mr. Steen.
Assignment Of Portfolios
Nominations For Premier
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My second question is what criteria would you be using when issuing portfolios to Ministers.
Assignment Of Portfolios
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Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Mrs. Groenewegen.
Assignment Of Portfolios
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Mr. Chairman, could I just ask, what criteria would I use in assigning Cabinet portfolios? I would look at a type of a resume of the individuals. I would look at what their background and at what their related expertise and experience is, and I would also look at what they had a particular interest in. Various Members may have ideas and a vision for a certain department and I would want to hear from them with respect to that. So I would say I would look at their interests and their expertise. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Assignment Of Portfolios
Nominations For Premier
Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mr. Morin.
Assignment Of Portfolios
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would meet with every new Cabinet Member and find out what their expertise is, what they've done in the past, what they want to do in the future and assign portfolios according to what their ability is. I wouldn't overload any one Cabinet Minister, I would want to spread the work out fairly; and look at where we can use their expertise to the best for this government and that's key. Thank you.
Assignment Of Portfolios
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Your third question, Mr. Steen.
Completion Of Mackenzie Highway
Nominations For Premier
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My third question is what are your views on completion of the Mackenzie Highway from Wrigley to Tuktoyaktuk as a way of creating jobs and improving the territorial economy as a whole.
Completion Of Mackenzie Highway
Nominations For Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Mr. Morin.
Completion Of Mackenzie Highway
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's no secret that transportation and the transportation infrastructure is very important. Once you have that, you have progress and you have other things that follow that. I would be quite willing to try to work with the federal government to ensure that we find funds for that, but also we do have some money existing in our own budgets to create work. I don't know if it makes a lot of sense to teach heavy equipment operators how to dig a hole and then fill it back in. Maybe we just look at the way we're spending money and use it as a positive thing so you can accomplish something.
That's a very big project that the Member is talking about and it would take many millions of dollars, so it is something that we would have to take a serious look at to see whether or not we can afford it. I don't have any complete answers to that, but it's something that we should look at because infrastructure for transportation is very key in the North. Thank you.
Completion Of Mackenzie Highway
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Election Of Premier
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The Chair Samuel Gargan
Mrs. Groenewegen.