Transcript of meeting #2 for Territorial Leadership Committee in the 14th Assembly.

The winning word was cabinet.

On the agenda

Mrs. Groenewegen's Candidacy Speech
Candidates' Speeches
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, colleagues. I would like to thank the honourable Member for North Slave for nominating me, and thank you to the other Members who put their names forward this morning.

Many of you will be wondering why, after stepping down from Cabinet last week, I would choose to run again for this vacant position. Mr. Chairman, I respected the report of the special committee and I resigned, and I believe that I have paid for my part in the unfortunate events that took place. Now today I would like to take this time allowed to attempt to share with you why this is something that I felt I had to do.

Mr. Chairman, when I was elected to Cabinet almost two years ago by the Members of this Legislature I had no preconceived notion of what portfolio I would be assigned. Premier Kakfwi met with each of us and informed us of the department we would be responsible for overseeing. When he said Health and Social Services I immediately knew it was right and this department encompassed many of the issues that I cared about very deeply.

Over the following months, along with many of you, I learned through briefings, question period, standing committees and through feedback and input from our constituents how important and vital these services were to the quality of life of Northerners. In the weeks and months that followed, a vision emerged of the enormous opportunity we had through program services and front line workers to effectively touch the lives and improve the well-being of northern residents.

I recognized that the challenges were immense. I gained an understanding of various components of the system, government and non-government, how they fit together and assisted in meeting the needs of our people. I realized the potential and opportunity we had to shape, define and direct the resources within the context of our fiscal capacity to most effectively serve our people.

This expanded to embrace the broader issue, the need for a social agenda, to be developed in concert with our economic agenda. This work was supported by the Cabinet and Members of this House, and it related to our vision of a better tomorrow. I was given the opportunity to chair, as Minister, the committee on the social agenda. We held our first conference and the work towards our social agenda in partnership with aboriginal governments continues as we speak.

The Department of Health and Social Services is complex and probably includes more initiatives, functions and services than any other department. I have invested two years in an intense learning curve. It is not a department which is sought after in any jurisdiction because of the stress which is on the system right across the country. When I attended the federal/provincial/territorial Health Ministers conference last year, I inadvertently left my identification tag in my hotel room. The meetings are heavily monitored by security. When I explained to the security guard that I was the Minister of Health and Social Services for the Northwest Territories, he agreed to let me in because he said "No one would admit to that if it were not true."

I admit that it has been challenging. I particularly enjoyed the Grandmothers Council, something new which had not been in place before and something that I thought of immediately upon taking this portfolio.

The grandmothers inspired me and helped me reaffirm certain philosophies which I believe we needed to incorporate. At our most recent meeting, one of the grandmothers shared a story that had been related to here by an elder. It was about a dream this elder had. In the dream, there was a river. Floating down the river were the bodies of people who had died. The efforts of the people on the shore were consumed with dealing with the bodies, removing them from the river and burying them. The people were so busy doing this that no one had time to go upstream and find out how the people were being swept into the river.

To me, this is a very powerful story because in our government, in the Department of Health and Social Services, we have traditionally expended most of our efforts in dealing with the tragic fallout of the lives being destroyed unnecessarily by preventable injuries and death. Lately, we focused more on trying to understand the root causes of high risk and destructive choices and early intervention.

I wanted to mention these things today because regardless of who is elected to Cabinet and who is assigned to Health and Social Services, it is extremely important to me that they understand and care very deeply for the pain that our people experience when there is no healing for their physical, emotional and spiritual sicknesses.

Being in Cabinet has taken me away from family, home and constituents and on balance, I have to admit that it has been a fairly high price to pay, but it is my family, constituents and other Northerners who have asked me today to put my name forward again.

If it were not for the people involved in this Ministry, and I mean Ministry in every sense of the word, from those who served to those who received the services, that sacrifice would not be worth it.

Someone told me a couple of weeks ago that politicians who get involved because they think they can make a difference must have a pretty large ego. In other words, why try? I think we try because we have to try. I want to take this opportunity to talk about a very key piece of government responsibility and a pillar of a compassionate society, ensuring adequate resources to help people when they are in a time of need and also to ensure that we have a Minister responsible who is passionate about that principle.

Everything in life does not always go the way we expect it to but as we get a little older and have a bit of history to look back at, we are able to put things in perspective. I am 45 years old next week, healthy with lots of energy and enthusiasm for whatever it is I choose to do. I have been blessed with a wonderful spouse for the past 25 years, three beautiful children -- and I know I am not objective about that -- a home that is filled with peace and sanctuary, and the financial means to live comfortably. In a country where the opportunity to do almost anything you want abounds, being blessed puts an onus on us to give something back. That is what I hope I have done through this rather unplanned foray into public service at this level.

I have also consistently experienced that when one door closes, another usually opens to something we might not have otherwise experienced. I sometimes have wondered after times of adversity why did we go through that experience but it is not usually too far down the road that we find it was for a significant purpose, to prepare us for something else. That is the wonderful thing about approaching life with open hands and an open heart and an open mind.

I believe that the prospects for the future of this territory and its people is bright. I have only been here 28 years and the more I learn about the land and the people the more amazed I am by them. I understand the aspirations of the people and that is important as we attempt to facilitate where we can as a government the realization of those dreams.

I support the agenda of our First Nations as we possess in the North, the unique opportunity in Canada to do things right and differently from anywhere it has been done in the past. It is our best efforts to that end that should guide us today as we choose a Member of Cabinet. We are a small group and I have purposely tried not to put people on the spot for support because it is a secret ballot. All of us can do what is best to our knowledge to choose a person who can lend their skills to achieving everything that we can for and on behalf of our people.

It is a privilege to serve in this Legislature and it will continue to be because every position is important. I want to thank the Regular Members for their warm reception that they have given me this past week. I have to admit with all due respect, that the Members on the other side of the House are just a little more fun than these. They are a little more outspoken, a little more direct.

Mrs. Groenewegen's Candidacy Speech
Candidates' Speeches
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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An Hon. Member

Hear, hear!

-- Laughter

Mrs. Groenewegen's Candidacy Speech
Candidates' Speeches
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

But as in any elected position, we put our names forward to offer a choice, which is then democratically determined. I believe I have brought a valuable perspective as a woman, a mother, a former care-giver to this Cabinet and have managed my assignments well. I trust you have found me to be respectful and attentive to the issues of your constituents and so today, Mr. Chairman, I just wish to humbly offer my skills and services to this Assembly again and ask for your support and remind Members that it is a secret ballot, vote with your heart and conscience for the best interest of our people and the person that you feel can best do the job. I know that you will do that. Thank you.

-- Applause

Mrs. Groenewegen's Candidacy Speech
Candidates' Speeches
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. I now call upon the honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger.

Mr. Miltenberger's Candidacy Speech
Candidates' Speeches
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, colleagues. First, I would like to thank my friend and colleague for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland, for nominating me. The decision to run for office, as we all know, is never an easy one. You have to be willing to put yourself on the line, stand up before your colleagues and take a chance that in fact, you may not get the support that you think is there for the job that you put yourself forward for.

For me, after careful consideration with my family, friends, colleagues and constituents, I stand here to offer myself as a candidate for this Legislature and this Cabinet. In order for me to do that, there were certain things that I felt I had to do so that I could, in fact, stand here and make that offer. As I indicated in the

House earlier this week, I have met with the Premier. I would like to restate, as I did Monday, that I have confidence in the Premier.

I am also confident, Mr. Chairman, that I can work effectively and in partnership with other Members of Cabinet, the Premier as well as the Members of this House.

The Premier and I go back almost 40 years. We have, outside of our political relationship, a personal relationship. This week, we also had a chance to briefly talk about that and the value that it has now and hopefully long after our time in political office is finished.

The election of Minister is the last act of a drama we are trying to bring closure to, to allow us to get back to the business of government and on with the work of the people. We are halfway through our term, Mr. Chairman. We have clear direction set with Towards a Better Tomorrow about where we want to go and how we want to get there.

Whoever is selected as a new Minister needs to be able to move on with that work. It is going to be critical, Mr. Chairman, that the person who is picked is able to become functional and effective very quickly. There is no time to waste. We are down to our last two years. I believe I have the background to allow me to do that.

Some of you know me well, some of you not as well. I would just like to quickly touch on a few things about myself.

I am a strong supporter of lifelong learning. I have a degree in sociology. I am a journeyman carpenter. I am also at work on my Masters in continuing education, which I would like to state at this point that if I am selected, I will put on hold so I can do the job at hand.

Prior to becoming an MLA, I was the mayor of Fort Smith and a town councilor. I sat on the NWTAM and was Chair of the South Slave regional council. I also have 20 years of government experience, 15 of those were at the superintendent and management level with Health and Social Services. I have spent six years in this Legislature, Mr. Chairman. Some of those years have been as a Regular Member. I have been Chair of Caucus, Chair of Western Caucus, on the Standing Committee on Social Program and was on the previous Assembly's Government Operations committee. I was also the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, the Workers' Compensation Board and the Public Utilities Board.

In addition to those qualifications, Mr. Chairman, I would just like to point out as well that I believe that I have the work ethic that is necessary for this job. In fact, when I am here in Yellowknife, I even tend to beat Minister Handley into the office in the morning, which takes some doing as he is already legendary for the time he spends at work.

I have also made very conscious lifestyle choices to be as effective a person as possible. When I talk about lifestyle choices, Mr. Speaker, I do not drink anymore, I do not smoke. I think these are important things that allow me to stay healthy and be able to do the job that is necessary.

If I were to become the new Minister, there are some things that I believe are very important.

It is critical for the Regular Members and Cabinet Ministers to stay connected outside of committee meetings on a day to day basis. It is important to have someone with a strong track record that demonstrates the ability to work and connect public government and aboriginal governments. There are many, many issues we share in common and we have to be able to deal with those productively.

I believe it is important for the Ministers to go into the communities and constituencies with the MLAs to hear first hand from the people of the communities what there issues are and to share their ideas. It is very important to work closely with committees on a day to day basis, not just when we have to, but in a way that will allow the Minister to get regular feedback, direction and advice from the committees in a very proactive and cooperative way as befits a consensus government.

It is very important to maintain that positive relationship, and as a Cabinet Minister I will commit to an open door policy. I will commit to being a regular visitor throughout the hallways of this building, not only the Cabinet end but the Regular Members' end. I have been down that end for five years and I know the critical nature of staying connected if we want to move the agenda ahead of this government.

I agree fully that it is important that Cabinet works together as a team to bring all our energies and abilities to bear. I tried to do that when I was on Cabinet last time, and I intend to bring that same kind of effort and enthusiasm to the table this time.

The issues and directions we need to continue moving on have been clearly established in this Assembly, so I will not repeat them. The key, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Chairman, is we need a Minister with the qualifications and experience that can be effective quickly and be part of the team. I believe I have those qualifications and experience, and will be looking for your support.

Finally, I would like to speak just briefly on three things that are very important to me. Mr. Speaker, as I grew up I learned from my parents that there are some things that are important -- my word, honour and integrity. I bring that, I have brought that to the Assembly and in all the work that I have done in my life. I commit to this House that if put on Cabinet I will also bring those very critical values to the Cabinet table so that I can add to the benefit of the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

-- Applause

Mr. Miltenberger's Candidacy Speech
Candidates' Speeches
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. I now call upon the honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah, to make a speech.

Mr. Nitah's Candidacy Speech
Candidates' Speeches
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, today is another monumental day in a monumental week. Today we choose a Cabinet Minister from amongst eleven of, or twelve of us now to sit on Cabinet.

Mr. Chairman, I would just like to speak a little bit on my history. I was born in Yellowknife and raised in Lutselk'e mostly, in the bush around Lutselk'e by my grandparents and great grandparents. I lived a life on the tap line until I hit high school. As an only child I spent many, many hours, many, many days, many, many months with elders. Their wisdom and their history rubbed off on me, and has served me well today in this House and in life.

High school was a very interesting period of time for me. In Akaitcho Hall I was able to live with people from all over the North, friends that are strong today and leaders in their own right in their communities. For a university education Iwent through Trent University in partnership with Aurora College, or Arctic College at the time. I studied native studies and North American politics, the history of the United States and Canadian political development, the history of aboriginal people from the east coast to the west coast to the Arctic Ocean, and how they have developed.

In the past 50 years aboriginal people - the past 100 years you could say - were taken by the federal government and moved into communities, given everything they needed to survive. I had an opportunity to visit with and meet with my counterpart from the Nunavut Government, Rebecca Williams, who is chairing a special committee that is reviewing their Official Languages Act. She had told me when we were discussing this very thing, how government had taken our lives that we had lived all our lives to a point where they brought us into communities, gave us homes, gave us food, even took out our toilet, to a point where we became unmotivated and unenergetic people.

I see that turning today, Mr. Chairman, through land claims, though an understanding of history, through Canadian political development. They are going out and gathering the tools for themselves, and we provide them with the tools. I think it is very important that we continue to do that.

Mr. Chairman, today I ask my colleagues and Cabinet Ministers to vote me into Cabinet so that I can represent you and all our constituencies in Cabinet. We need unity in this House, Mr. Chairman, and we need unity in the North. We have great potential. We have great economic potential. We have great political potential. We have our tourism industry, we have our mining industry, we have our oil and gas industry. That takes a cooperative effort to develop in a sustained manner.

The people of the Northwest Territories are wanting to do that, and I think that by working together in government and in the society of the Northwest Territories we can achieve great things. We have the best potential in Canada and the best potential in North America, and only by working together as Northerners can we achieve the ends that we want, can we achieve our rightful place in Canada, so that we can contribute to the Dominion of Canada culturally, politically and economically.

Mr. Chairman, I am young and energetic. I have an open mind and I am willing to learn. I have learned lots in the last two years since we have been elected. I have learned from every one of you in here. I cannot pinpoint one person because I cannot, it is undoable.

I have been fortunate to travel the Northwest Territories on a number of issues. I have heard people speak and they want to unite, Mr. Chairman. We want to work together as Northerners. We have to have a person in Cabinet that is able to connect to people, that can relate to the different sets of people, to all Northerners.

As I mentioned, I grew up in the bush. I went to high school with Northerners from all over the North. In high school I made friends from the City of Yellowknife who are friends today, who were born in Yellowknife, who were born in the North and who are true Northerners, Mr. Chairman. I had an opportunity to work with a major international company, Diavik - or Rio Tinto through Diavik. I met and worked and became friends with people from all over the world, with all kinds of different professions. They are making the North their home now, Mr. Chairman. I can relate to them.

I had an opportunity to travel in Canada. When you travel in Canada you appreciate the uniqueness of the North and the lives that we lead up here that are so dear to all Northerners. I also see the things that southern Canada has that they take for granted. It is a challenge for us to get some of that stuff that is down south that people want up here, and how to bridge the gap between the unique northern life style and commodities that are in the south, and still have that uniqueness.

I had an opportunity to travel the world. Mr. Ootes and I were in Israel in the spring of 2000. If you think our political challenges are tough in the Northwest Territories, after being to Israel, Mr. Chairman, I think we can achieve anything in the Northwest Territories -- political development, economic development and social development. I think we are a shining light for Canada when we see the North developing. In 20 years, Mr. Chairman, the North has developed to a point where we are the model.

I remember the band council in Lutselk'e used to operate out of a small trailer. Now they have their own building. It is like that right across the board, Mr. Chairman.

I put my name forward because I want to work for the people of the Northwest Territories. I want to gain experience in Cabinet so that I could, God willing, get re-elected and have a major role to play in the 15th Assembly.

My colleagues speak of experience. We have a lot of experienced Cabinet Ministers right now. Can we guarantee that we will have experienced Cabinet Ministers next term? I do not know that but I would like to give myself an opportunity. I would like my colleagues to give me the opportunity to learn in Cabinet so that I can work for the people of the Northwest Territories, not only this term but hopefully in the next term, have some continuity.

As I said earlier, I am young, energetic, have an open mind and am willing to learn. I will expect, if voted in this Cabinet, that I will be learning and working with all Members to achieve the goal that we set for ourselves in the document, Towards a Better Tomorrow. We started a process and I think it is very important we stay to that process.

If elected, I will work very hard. I am a single father. The kids are living with their mother full-time. I have all the time I need to spend on the job and to work on your behalf. With that, Mr. Chairman, I thank you and I would like to wish my colleagues who are running for the same position good luck. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Voting
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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The Speaker

Mahsi, Mr. Nitah. Each candidate has had a chance to make their ten-minute speech. The speeches are now concluded. Members are now asked to proceed to the Clerk's table to receive their ballots, then to proceed to the polling booths to mark their ballots and then to place those ballots in the ballot box, located in front of the Clerk's table. Please proceed to pick up their ballots and vote accordingly.

Are there any other Members who need to vote who have not yet voted? If there is no one left to vote, I will cast my ballot.

Colleagues, I declare the voting process now closed. The ballot box will now be taken to the Clerk's office where the ballots will be counted. The bell will ring for five minutes to bring the Member's back to the Chamber once the results have been determined. We will take a break.

-- Break

Voting
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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The Speaker

It is now my duty to announce that there is a need for a second ballot. The nominees for the second ballot are: the honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Delorey; the honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger; the honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah. Before we proceed to vote, are there any nominees wishing to withdraw at this time? There being no withdrawals, the ballots are available as before. Please proceed to vote.

Are there any more Members wishing to vote? If there is no one else wishing to vote, then I will proceed to vote myself.

I declare the voting process closed. The ballot box will now be taken to the Clerk's office where the ballots will be counted. The bell will ring for five minutes to bring Members back once the results have been determined. We will now take a short break.

-- Break

Voting
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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The Speaker

Colleagues, it is now my duty to announce that there is a need for a third ballot. The nominees for the third ballot are the honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Delorey and the honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger. Before we proceed to vote, are there any nominees wishing to withdraw at this time?

There being no such withdrawals, the ballots are now available as before. Please proceed to vote.

Are there any more Members wishing to vote who have not yet voted? There being no others wishing to vote, I will now proceed to vote myself.

I declare that the voting process is now closed. The ballot box will now be taken to the Clerk's office where the ballots will be counted. The bells will ring for five minutes to bring Members back in once the results have been determined. We shall take a short break.

-- Break

Results
Item 5: Election Of Cabinet Minister

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The Speaker

The five minutes of bell are up. Colleagues, I declare that you have elected the honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger, as a Member of Cabinet. This appointment will be confirmed by motion in the House later today.

-- Applause

Item 6: Adjournment
Item 6: Adjournment

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The Speaker

I declare that these proceedings are now concluded. We are adjourned.

-- ADJOURNMENT