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Supplementary To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ms. Cournoyea.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, as the Legislative Assembly knows, we never did adopt the Beatty Report. We did prepare from elements out of the Beatty Report on reshaping northern government on areas where we felt would be beneficial to use from that study. However, the document that is more appropriate to refer to is "Reshaping Northern Government", which does have some elements of the Beatty Report in it, but not all. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, Oral Questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Supplementary To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

This is the final supplementary, Mr. Speaker. In November of last year, this House held its first territorial leadership meeting and listened to the Government Leader outline her reasons why the Members should support her bid to head the government. When she was then asked by the Honourable John Todd whether she was prepared to take the risk and make structural changes to the government, she indicated that "I know that there is some fear out there if we do not make those changes and do not take those risks. As the Legislature, we are in serious trouble. As a Cabinet, we would be in more serious trouble." Recognizing that apart from consolidating Government Services with Public Works, Education with Communication and Culture, there is some concern that there has been no significant structural changes. Will the Government Leader ask her officials to assess whether or not this prophecy has come to pass? Is this the reason why we have seen so much discontent in this House? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ms. Cournoyea.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I guess it is an opinion on what discontent is and what accelerated questions are or if we are just people wanting to know what is going on. I do not like to phrase it as discontent. Certain things happen. People are not supportive of it. I just do not feel that we can always frame it in one word. I believe that much of the problem that we are having is that we just do not have the financial resources we once had. There is a lot of fear out there that one area will get something over another area. I know that is fundamental and people are struggling to represent their communities and deliver projects, programs, employment and training and academic excellence to communities.

We hear not only from this Legislative Assembly, but all across Canada, in all parts of the world, including the United States of America, which is the richest nation in the world, about financial problems.

Inherently people have that fear. There is a lot of pressure put on the ordinary M.L.A.'s. People are asking how much is going to go, where are we going to end up, are we going to get the things that we wanted and were planned for? I think all that pressure is on every one of us. Out of that there will be more and more pressure on the Cabinet to deliver and try to retain that standard, and that pressure is shown here, in Yellowknife, which is the capital city of the Northwest Territories at this time. That puts a certain amount of pressure on people too, because it has had a certain standard and it has been recognized and it has a certain amount of affluence. All those things are inherent in what you could call discontent.

While this is going on, we are trying as a Cabinet with the Legislative Assembly to organize this government so that the bureaucracy does not suck up all the resources. There is not any financial possibility of doing programs or projects. All those are inherent, I do not know whether we can blame it on one thing. Certainly, trying to change a bureaucratic structure and keep everybody happy is almost an impossibility, but when I spoke to you at the leadership meeting, I did indicate that I would try to do that. There are risks in doing that and I recognize them.

We have not concluded all the consolidations, we have not concluded all the recommendations in terms of restructuring the financial area. The Government of the Northwest Territories is on top of the "Strength of Two Levels" report, on top of the identification of the "Reshaping Northern Government" and on top of the recommendations of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts that we must do to legitimize that we are looking after our financial resources. There is a lot of pressure and it comes from all over the place and of course it is going to be represented in this House. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Government Leader, what further consolidations are to come about and when does she anticipate that they will be completed? Thank you.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

That is two questions, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Could you ask just one question, please? Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

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Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Yes, Ms. Cournoyea, I have asked Mrs. Marie-Jewell if she would ask just one question. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Supplementary To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Will the Government Leader be able to give us a time table for the completion of all consolidation for departments within the government? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ms. Cournoyea.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I will provide that information to the honourable Member.

Further Return To Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
Question 220-12(3): Plans For G.n.w.t. Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, Oral Questions. Mr. Antoine.

Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Government Leader on the "Getting Down to Business" statement of November 17. In the address, there was a reference to progress the government had made in changing the way it does business, through a process of consolidation, decentralization, community transfers and privatization. I would like to know which services or programs have now been decentralized so that they are now located in regional locations instead of Yellowknife. Thank you.

Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ms. Cournoyea.

Return To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, we have had to go through the process of giving out proper information. The actual change over has not taken place at this time. The first part of it starts on April 1, 1993, and I can provide detailed information as to whether that is still on schedule, or whether there will have to be some delays in some areas.

Return To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

Supplementary To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Government Leader tell the House about the process through which these decentralization plans are being developed? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Ms. Cournoyea.

Further Return To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, They are being developed through the Financial Management Board and the Cabinet.

Further Return To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Even though the decentralization initiative is now several months old, the main accomplishment of the government has been to hold meetings about how to develop the decentralization plan. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 221-12(3): Decentralization Of Programs And Services
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

That was a statement Mr. Antoine. Do you have a question?