Mr. Chairman, that concludes the Report of the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions on the Student Financial Assistance Board.
Debates of Dec. 8th, 1992
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Committee Motion 53-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 2
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Are there any general comments? Does the committee agree that Committee Report 7-12(3), Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions is concluded?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. What does the committee wish now? Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, I recommend that the committee deal with the report from the Special Committee on Health and Social Services.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Is it agreed that we deal with Committee Report 5-12(3), Special Committee on Health and Social Services?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Report 5-12(3): Special Committee On Health And Social Services, Interim Report No. 3
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
General comments. Mr. Nerysoo.
General Comments
Committee Report 5-12(3): Special Committee On Health And Social Services, Interim Report No. 3
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just prior to my colleague, Mr. Dent, proceeding with recommendations, there was one item where we were dealing with recommendations that we are not proposing as a motion here today, but I would ask the government to consider the suggestion of ensuring that in the consultative process, where we were dealing with the matter of assessing the health and social services programs, that those were involved in the delivery part of that consultation process. All too often, we do not involve them in the consultation and sometimes we forget that they are an integral part of determining whether or not a particular program is successful and whether or not in the communities they are being treated in a fair and reasonable manner. That could be the basis for some of the misunderstanding that occurs in the delivery of programs and services to the communities. So I would hope that we would ensure that it is an ongoing process that we would ask and ensure that those who are delivering the services are, in fact, consulted on an ongoing basis. It is not a recommendation but it is a suggestion to our government.
Committee Report 5-12(3): Special Committee On Health And Social Services, Interim Report No. 3
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Are there any further general comments? Mr. Dent.
Committee Report 5-12(3): Special Committee On Health And Social Services, Interim Report No. 3
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, I am going to present some of our recommendations in motion form. I think one of the things we noted in the report was that workers in the Departments of Health and Social Services, in the field and in the communities are really quite concerned about what is going to happen when the two departments are combined. It is very important that the government, in order to ensure that morale is maintained at the best possible level and that people are spending their time being concerned about delivering health and social services products to clients rather than worrying about their jobs or their future, consult with and inform these front line workers as to what progress is taking place in terms of the joining of these two departments.
Committee Motion 54-12(3): G.n.w.t. Work With Departmental Staff In Health And Social Services Amalgamation
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee recommend that the government start working together with the Health and Social Services staff and clients to hear and make use of their respective ideas in any integration or amalgamation of the two departments.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Motion is in order. To the motion.
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Committee Members were also very surprised to find when we were talking to social workers in the Keewatin that the social assistance manual was
not available to them in Inuktitut. This is totally inappropriate. The committee found this to be an unusual situation.
Committee Motion 55-12(3): Provision Of Social Assistance Manual In Inuktitut
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, I move that this committee recommend that the Department of Social Services ensure that the social assistance manual is available in Inuktitut for social workers in those areas where it is appropriate.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Dent, I am confused.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, I may have to write that motion out and have it translated.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Before I rule the recommendation we will take five minutes. Mr. Nerysoo.
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Chairman, perhaps we do not necessarily have to introduce it as a motion. So as not to stop the process, it would have, in our view, been more appropriate as a recommendation to the department and to the government to provide the manual. We would hope that our Cabinet is listening to this matter. To ensure that social assistance...
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Nerysoo, first I will rule that recommendation, after that you may speak to it. I did not rule it yet. Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
In order to speed the process up, Mr. Chairman, I would like to withdraw the motion.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. The motion has been withdrawn.
---Withdrawn
Are there any further comments? Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
As Mr. Nerysoo was pointing out, while we had not, in our report, brought this forward as a motion, we think it is extremely important that the social workers and the clients have access to the social assistance manual in Inuktitut just to ensure that everybody understands the program to the best level possible. As Mr. Nerysoo was saying, we are hoping that the Minister will pay attention to that and respond appropriately.
I think, Mr. Chairman, if I may carry on, one of the other areas that we touched on in our report had to do with respite care. In every centre that we were in we heard people tell us of the need for respite care. People need some assistance; they need to have a break from caring for people that they are looking after. In fact, the committee has had a letter, since our trip there, reinforcing this recommendation.