This is page numbers 233 - 277 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was report.

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Supplementary To Question 116-12(4): Senior Citizens' Facilities
Question 116-12(4): Senior Citizens' Facilities
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Minister Mike.

Further Return To Question 116-12(4): Senior Citizens' Facilities
Question 116-12(4): Senior Citizens' Facilities
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member knows, the senior citizens' home is in the five year capital plan. According to how successful we are in reinstating the level of funding that was provided by the federal government, as far as I know it will be in the five year capital plan. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 116-12(4): Senior Citizens' Facilities
Question 116-12(4): Senior Citizens' Facilities
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to pose my question to the Minister of Justice, following up on my Member's statement today. On April 1 -- and it wasn't an April Fool's joke -- I had asked the Minister of Justice if he would commit to provide me with a written status report on the success or the lack of success of the change in the River Ridge facility by October.

At the time the Minister said he would. I would like to ask the Minister of Justice whether he feels changing the River Ridge facility, from a secure facility to a triple designated facility with open custody, has been one of the department's successes? Thank you.

Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, when we reach item 13, I will be tabling a report, as I promised last year, on the River Ridge young offenders facility. All Members will have an opportunity to see that it was a good decision at the time. It will give some indication about our views at the present time, including those of the staff. Thank you.

Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Supplementary To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Taking into account that the Minister has indicated that he'll be tabling his report today of what, in his view, was a proper decision, and taking into account the two incidents that I have expressed concern about in this House, how can the Minister indicate that his decision has been the right decision when my constituents are held in life-threatening situations? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, that it was her constituents has really no bearing on the way the legislation compels us to treat young offenders. It is the courts and judges who designate young offenders either to be held in open custody or closed custody. In some incidents where the youth were sentenced to open custody, there was no previous indication or indication leading up to the incidents that they would commit the offenses.

We have checked with other jurisdictions in the country and it shows that the number of incidents of this nature we have on a per capita basis is not unlike other jurisdictions. In fact, the level of these types of incidents involving young offenders is less than in other jurisdictions.

Further Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Supplementary To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It certainly should be less, we have a lot smaller population compared to many other jurisdictions. I find the answer to be frivolous, at best. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister -- and I would like to go back to my initial question I asked -- how can he indicate to this House that the facility being designated to a triple designation is a correct decision while recognizing these couple of incidents? I know of two other incidents, not pertaining to River Ridge, but to the Hay River facility, that place my constituents' lives in jeopardy. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Minister Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, whether the facilities are located in Fort Smith or any other location, the fact is we are dealing here with youth who have some problems. They are, in many cases, troubled. They need counselling. They need some form of discipline. They need support, and the staff that we have are trained to provide that.

There is no place in this world, regardless of the number of bars, locks and armed guards we have, that will wipe out these types of incidents. It's the nature of how to run these types of facilities. Because you lock children up, hold them in custody of some form, does not mean that they will at some time or other, either frivolously or going about it in a well planned methodical way, not try to get away or break out and in some cases become violent in the process.

I would say that the triple designation of these facilities at that time, was a good decision. I still think it's a good decision. It gives us the flexibility to use the facilities to the best means we can for the need we have. The Member will know that previous Ministers, going back as far as 1988, have said that part of the difficulty we have -- I can quote previous Ministers on this -- is that it is very difficult to plan for using facilities when the intake of young offenders fluctuates so much. Triple designation was the solution we thought would best work and we think it has been well received by the staff. It certainly gives us the flexibility we need to use what is sometimes very under-utilized staff and facilities. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Supplementary To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister indicated that sometimes there's no way we can wipe out these types of incidents. I'm coming from the viewpoint that I recognize that no facility can wipe out incidents such as the type that I've mentioned in this House however, there are methods that can be used in attempting to avoid these types of incidents. That's the point I'm trying to bring to the Minister.

Mr. Speaker, I know he has deemed one particular facility to look after three types of young offenders and he's now saying that his report will back this up. But I'm telling him of actual incidents that will not justify his decision. I'd like to ask the Minister, why didn't he provide that report in October, as he stated in this House on April 1, and only now on November 29, does he plan to table it? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I think the question would have me arrive at the door of River Ridge. The manager of River Ridge was asked to provide comments and a report of some form so that the good Member for Thebacha would have the substance of a report earlier on this fall. It's taken a little bit of work in coaxing, and some refinement in the writing to develop this report and it's now here. There is a lot of other work that goes on in the government and the department. The report is here so the Members can have a look at it. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Question 117-12(4): Status Report On River Ridge Young Offender Facility
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Gargan.

Question 118-12(4): Method Of Giving Out Information On Tainted Blood
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to direct my question to the Minister of Health. Last week, Mr. Speaker, on Thursday, I was listening to the National News. There was a report done with regard to tainted blood between 1975 and 1980. The report stated it doesn't take much to be infected with HIV. I'd like to ask the Minister whether there is a public awareness being done with regard to people during that period of time going to Edmonton for emergency surgery, or other surgery who received blood and whether those people are informed. They should be tested to ensure they are not infected by that tainted blood.

Question 118-12(4): Method Of Giving Out Information On Tainted Blood
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Pollard.

Return To Question 118-12(4): Method Of Giving Out Information On Tainted Blood
Question 118-12(4): Method Of Giving Out Information On Tainted Blood
Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, recently Health Ministers across Canada made a commitment to have a program in place to help those people who have been infected or had relatives who had been infected. Right now the Canadian Blood Agency is the agency that will be administering that program.

We are aware of people in the Northwest Territories who have contracted the HIV virus by either blood products or by transfusion. Dr. Kinloch was in Ottawa last week and I'm awaiting his report from the Canadian Blood Agency. Some provinces have 1-800 numbers, others have advertising campaigns. We've collated all those methods of getting the message out and we'll be making a decision next week as to the tact that the Northwest Territories should take in getting the message out.

I would point out it is our policy that if there is somebody in the Northwest Territories who feels that by some means or another they have had a chance to have a brush with the HIV virus, they merely have to go to the health centre, to the hospital or to their doctor and we will arrange for them to get tested, Mr. Speaker. There are some people who may have gone to a hospital in southern Canada where they may have had a blood transfusion or blood products, and sometimes they might not have known that has happened. That's the message we have to get out to those people is that if you feel you are in that category, if it's within that particular time frame, then please arrange with us to get tested. As I said, Mr. Speaker, we will have that advertising campaign available next week. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 118-12(4): Method Of Giving Out Information On Tainted Blood
Question 118-12(4): Method Of Giving Out Information On Tainted Blood
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Koe.

Question 119-12(4): Revision Of Wildlife Act
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Renewable Resources. Over the years there have been a lot of questions in this Assembly and a lot of concerns raised by people in the Northwest Territories about the status of the Northwest Territories Wildlife Act. With the settlement of land claims, it is now time that the government has to take some action to revise the Northwest Territories Wildlife Act. What is this government doing to revise the Northwest Territories Wildlife Act?

Question 119-12(4): Revision Of Wildlife Act
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Minister Kakfwi.