Mr. Minister.
Debates of Dec. 9th, 1993
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, going from memory, there were over 100 bison there originally. There were some losses along the way. I know that we had a bull down there one time that went crazy and had to be put down. It destroyed some other animals. There's been some other animals harvested and I believe, at the present time, it's around 100 animals down there, Mr. Chairman.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Conservation education and resource development, special warrant, $3.450
million. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
The $3 million to the TFN for the Nunavut wildlife harvester income support program is part of the land claims agreement. I'm just wondering why this amount wasn't budgeted for previously, knowing that the land claims agreement was signed and sealed? I wonder why this wasn't in the budget before?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, there needs to be certain conditions met by TFN with regard to this support program and those conditions weren't met at the time we put the budget together. Mr. Chairman, when those conditions
were eventually met, we made the payment. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Is the $90,000 and one PY an ongoing position for the traditional knowledge policy? After we approve a PY, it tends to stay around forever. The traditional knowledge study was done a few years ago and a response was finally made by this government which, I believe, did not have a totally favourable response from the people that worked on it. I'm just wondering what the status is of the PY and the money? Once we approve it here, would it be an ongoing PY and if it is, why?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, the funding was to finalize, for Cabinet consideration and tabling in the Legislative Assembly, the GNWT response to the report of the traditional knowledge working group and items of that nature. I don't believe that this is a permanent PY, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
If it is not a permanent PY, I don't understand why it is in this supplementary and it is not qualified here. I am afraid if we have approved this PY, it tends to become permanent. The study is done and the review has been tabled. I am curious as to what the intent here is.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, approving this particular expenditure does not approve this PY forever. It would have to come back into the O & M budget again. So this is merely approving this PY and this particular amount of dollars on a one-time basis, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
If the study is done and the government's response to the study is done, what is the need for an ongoing PY? I believe there is only a need for perhaps a .5 or three quarters of a PY. Is the intent to have this individual on for the full year?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, I believe that there are three aspects of this traditional knowledge area that have not yet been addressed.
The first one is the initiative to implement a comprehensive educational and promotional campaign to the general public. As part of the campaign, they want to implement a series of annual awards recognizing the contribution to northern society of holders of traditional knowledge and to reprofile the existing grants and contribution programs to make traditional knowledge initiatives a priority. I think that is due to be finished by March 31, 1994, I believe, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Conservation education and resource development. Mr. Whitford.
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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There were two things. I was going to ask a question about the special warrant for the cost of the outbreak of anthrax at $1 million. We certainly hope that nothing like this comes again this year. I recognize the fact that these things happen unexpectedly and you can't really plan for them. Given the fact that this outbreak has occurred and we know that anthrax is in the Northwest Territories -- it is certainly in the Hope Lake area or the Hanging Ice area and we know that it is now in that buffalo sanctuary -- is there other monies put aside for combatting this or studying it, or something like that? I recognize that this $1 million is to beat this, but are there other monies that are going to be put in now for anthrax control, something like forest fire suppression?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, if my memory serves me, there is an anthrax emergency response plan. That was updated on June 20 of this year. Unfortunately, on August 3, the anthrax emergency response plan had to be put into effect. When we checked with the experts in the field, Mr. Chairman, they advised us that conditions were right, humidity-wise, temperature-wise, and the disease sprang up. When we asked them where the disease came from, they told us that the spores may have been in the ground for 100 years. When asked if there was any anticipation that it might happen again, there was a strong indication that there will be another anthrax outbreak in the Mackenzie sanctuary. In trying to get ahead of this and do what Mr. Whitford is talking about, Mr. Chairman, we propose to spend $85,000 of this particular funding to vaccinate bulls in the sanctuary in February and March. It will be done by using self-dissolving darts and they will be fired from helicopters. They are telling us that they are using them on the bulls because they are the most vulnerable to this particular disease.
There has also been some work done with the people around Fort Providence. There are volunteers being trained to spot the anthrax in wood bison. For the record, Mr. Chairman, there were 170 bison killed. There were also three moose and three bears in the area, north and east of Fort Providence, that lost their lives to the anthrax outbreak. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Whitford.
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Tony Whitford Yellowknife South
Thank you. That was very informative.
While the Minister has his notes in front of him, it seems that it would be an appropriate time to ask, in the area of combat, some of the reading that I have done on the subject indicates that burning is also one of the remedies for getting rid of it, since it is in the soil. I wondered if there any part of that strategic plan would include controlled burning of the prairies, in some areas, to rid of that spore from the habitat that it is in?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you, Mr. Minister.