Debates of Dec. 9th, 1993

This is page numbers 565 - 633 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Comic Book - Arctic Plei
Country Food
Canadian Council Of Catholic Bishops
Social Assistance Food Rates
Government Contractual Practices
Closure Of Akaitcho Hall
Return To Oral Question 239-12(4): Funds For Meeting Of Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Further Return To Oral Question 242-12(4): Stockpiles Transferred For Roads In Chesterfield Inlet
Return To Oral Question 235-12(4): Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Return To Oral Question 211-12(4): Canada/nwt Languages Agreement
Further Return To Oral Question 213-12(4): Canada/nwt Language Agreements
Further Return To Oral Question 225-12(4): Type Of Expertise Shared With Other Groups
Further Return To Oral Question 231-12(4): Division Secretariat Established By Cabinet
Further Return To Oral Question 226-12(4): Training Programs For Heavier Involvement In The Mining Industry
Return To Oral Question 94-12(4): Policy For Non-medical Escorts
Return To Oral Question 210-12(4): Consultation Prior To Non-native Adoptions
Further Return To Oral Question 193-12(4): Examine Guardianship Act In Detail
Return To Oral Question 200-12(4): Fire And Liability Insurance Carried On Government Units
Consultation With Other Jurisdictions Re Guardianship Trustee Act
Reductions In Food Allowances In Natilikmiot Communities
Review New Food Rates And Increase In Communities That Were Decreased
Food Allowance Rates
Responsibility For Snow Removal For Social Housing
Agency Responsible For Food Cost Surveys
Eligibility For Senior Citizens' Fuel Subsidy
Transfer Of Gravel To Hamlet Of Chesterfield Inlet
Cut-off Of Family Allowances For School Age Children
GNWT Takeover Of Federal Tank Farm
Monitoring Of Contracts To Ensure Local Labour Hired
Reasons For Increases In Food Allowances
Staff Housing Buy-back Policy
Revisions To Conflict Of Interest Guidelines Since 1988
NWT Birthrate For 1992
Tabling Of Strategic Planning Report
Review Of Policy For Mackenzie River Barging Contract
Number Of Custom Adoptions In 1992
Application Of Language Bonus
Counselling For Pregnant Teenagers
Commitment To Respond To Outstanding Questions
Status On Baffin Fishing Industry Quotas
Update Of Mine Safety Act
Transfer And Consolidation Of Responsibilities
Item 7: Returns To Written Questions
Return To Written Question 1-12(4): Government Of The Northwest Territories In Court As Defendant
Return To Written Question 4-12(4): Iqaluit Hot Water System Shutdown Costs
Return To Written Question 6-12(4): Details And Costs Of Government Repaired Houses
Return To Written Question 13-12(4): Hay Plan Status
Return To Written Question 17-12(4): Fort Smith Garage Purchases
Return To Written Question 20-12(4): Capital Contracts List
Return To Written Question 22-12(4): Public Works Contracts
Return To Written Question 26-12(4): Government Buildings Written Off After Fires
Item 8: Replies To Opening Address
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Independent Review Of Triple Designation Of River Ridge Facility
Road Construction Through Wood Buffalo National Park, Carried As Amended
Referral Of The Comprehensive Audit Of The Department Of Economic Development And Tourism To The Standing Committee On Public Accounts
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Committee Report 10-12(4): Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions Review Of The NWT Power Corporation
To Adopt Recommendation 1
To Adopt Recommendation 2
To Adopt Recommendation 3
To Adopt Recommendation 4
To Adopt Recommendation 5,
To Adopt Recommendation 6
To Adopt Recommendation 7
To Adopt Recommendation 8
To Adopt Recommendation 9
To Adopt Recommendation 10
To Adopt Recommendation 11
To Adopt Recommendation 12
To Adopt Recommendation 13
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Bill 1, Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
Bill 5, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 5, 1992-93
Bill 6, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1993-94
Assent To Bills

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

As I said, I'll pass that on to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs who has just returned to the House and may wish to comment on this subject himself.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Pollard. Minister Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I do apologize. We're we talking about the position for property assessment? I've already written to the honourable Member on that and we are taking that under consideration with our move toward, dare I say it, Mr. Dent, "decentralization."

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Koe, does that answer your question?

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I haven't received the letter yet. I'm looking forward to it.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Going back to the $84,000, if you would bear with me for a second. Is this $84,000 contribution in the supplementary, over and above what you've already given Fort Providence under the funding formula that everybody gets for office space?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Minister Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, that's what I wanted to check and see. I have to say that I don't believe it is, but I don't know for sure. I would like to check it out, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Pollard. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would the Minister then be able to tell us the total cost of the office space/lease rental? Is it $84,000 plus what they are already eligible for under the funding formula?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

Yes, we'll get that information, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Municipal operations and assessment, not previously authorized, $456,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Total department, special warrant, $295,000. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could the Minister please tell me if he will be withholding that expenditure of $84,000 until he finds out exactly what was eligible under the regular funding formula, and make sure that the government is not spending more than they are supposed to for office space, taking into consideration other communities don't get that kind of special funding under that system.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Minister Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

I'm sure that Mr. Todd heard the concern, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

I don't know what the $84,000 is for either, but all the municipalities get the same amount of money to operate their municipalities. The money that I see here is money that the government pays out to the hamlet, or to Digaa Enterprises, to lease office space in that building. They've saved the government at least $600,000, by virtue of them borrowing the money from the banks to build this building and lease it back to the government. It's not extra money that is used for to operate the hamlets, but it certainly is there for the hamlet to use since it goes back to them, anyway.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Mr. Minister, you look like you want to answer that.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, I appreciate what Mr. Gargan is saying, but I think I understand the question from Mr. Arvaluk, too. I think the Minister of MACA understands as well and we'll get that information to the Members, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Pollard. There's assurance that the information will be given to the Members dealing with this item. Municipal operations and assessment, we've done that. Total department, special warrant, $295,000.