Debates of Dec. 9th, 1993

This is page numbers 565 - 633 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Comic Book - Arctic Plei
Country Food
Canadian Council Of Catholic Bishops
Social Assistance Food Rates
Government Contractual Practices
Closure Of Akaitcho Hall
Return To Oral Question 239-12(4): Funds For Meeting Of Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Further Return To Oral Question 242-12(4): Stockpiles Transferred For Roads In Chesterfield Inlet
Return To Oral Question 235-12(4): Alcohol And Drug Board Of Management
Return To Oral Question 211-12(4): Canada/nwt Languages Agreement
Further Return To Oral Question 213-12(4): Canada/nwt Language Agreements
Further Return To Oral Question 225-12(4): Type Of Expertise Shared With Other Groups
Further Return To Oral Question 231-12(4): Division Secretariat Established By Cabinet
Further Return To Oral Question 226-12(4): Training Programs For Heavier Involvement In The Mining Industry
Return To Oral Question 94-12(4): Policy For Non-medical Escorts
Return To Oral Question 210-12(4): Consultation Prior To Non-native Adoptions
Further Return To Oral Question 193-12(4): Examine Guardianship Act In Detail
Return To Oral Question 200-12(4): Fire And Liability Insurance Carried On Government Units
Consultation With Other Jurisdictions Re Guardianship Trustee Act
Reductions In Food Allowances In Natilikmiot Communities
Review New Food Rates And Increase In Communities That Were Decreased
Food Allowance Rates
Responsibility For Snow Removal For Social Housing
Agency Responsible For Food Cost Surveys
Eligibility For Senior Citizens' Fuel Subsidy
Transfer Of Gravel To Hamlet Of Chesterfield Inlet
Cut-off Of Family Allowances For School Age Children
GNWT Takeover Of Federal Tank Farm
Monitoring Of Contracts To Ensure Local Labour Hired
Reasons For Increases In Food Allowances
Staff Housing Buy-back Policy
Revisions To Conflict Of Interest Guidelines Since 1988
NWT Birthrate For 1992
Tabling Of Strategic Planning Report
Review Of Policy For Mackenzie River Barging Contract
Number Of Custom Adoptions In 1992
Application Of Language Bonus
Counselling For Pregnant Teenagers
Commitment To Respond To Outstanding Questions
Status On Baffin Fishing Industry Quotas
Update Of Mine Safety Act
Transfer And Consolidation Of Responsibilities
Item 7: Returns To Written Questions
Return To Written Question 1-12(4): Government Of The Northwest Territories In Court As Defendant
Return To Written Question 4-12(4): Iqaluit Hot Water System Shutdown Costs
Return To Written Question 6-12(4): Details And Costs Of Government Repaired Houses
Return To Written Question 13-12(4): Hay Plan Status
Return To Written Question 17-12(4): Fort Smith Garage Purchases
Return To Written Question 20-12(4): Capital Contracts List
Return To Written Question 22-12(4): Public Works Contracts
Return To Written Question 26-12(4): Government Buildings Written Off After Fires
Item 8: Replies To Opening Address
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Independent Review Of Triple Designation Of River Ridge Facility
Road Construction Through Wood Buffalo National Park, Carried As Amended
Referral Of The Comprehensive Audit Of The Department Of Economic Development And Tourism To The Standing Committee On Public Accounts
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Committee Report 10-12(4): Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions Review Of The NWT Power Corporation
To Adopt Recommendation 1
To Adopt Recommendation 2
To Adopt Recommendation 3
To Adopt Recommendation 4
To Adopt Recommendation 5,
To Adopt Recommendation 6
To Adopt Recommendation 7
To Adopt Recommendation 8
To Adopt Recommendation 9
To Adopt Recommendation 10
To Adopt Recommendation 11
To Adopt Recommendation 12
To Adopt Recommendation 13
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Bill 1, Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1994-95
Bill 5, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 5, 1992-93
Bill 6, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1993-94
Assent To Bills

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Sports and recreation. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was wondering if the Minister could tell us, is the $95,000 considered to be the whole premium for the cost of getting uniforms made in the Northwest Territories, or were there other costs already built into the budget?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Was that to Mr. Pollard or to Mr. Todd? Mr. Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

It's the only premium that I'm aware of, Mr. Chairman. Obviously, in the past, there's been assistance from the Government of the Northwest Territories, but this is the only premium that I know of that's being paid out to enable us to get the...Well, I can give you how it works out, Mr. Chairman.

The total clothing was $135,000. The athletes' share is 450 multiplied by $200 for $90,000. The GNWT subsidy is $45,000. The promotional program was $50,000. The total cost to the GNWT was $95,000. That's the only premium that I'm aware of that we're paying, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Pollard. The Chair recognizes Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I'm looking for is how many extra dollars we spent on having produced in the Northwest Territories, so then I can then ask what were the number of jobs that we got for those dollars? I'm trying to assess the net economic benefit.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Minister Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, the direct income to arts and crafts producers is estimated at $90,000. If we use the yardstick of $10,000 per annum per year as a constant, we will find that we generate nine person years of employment in the Northwest Territories. With regard to the multiplier effect, which is valued at $1.50 for every contract dollar spent, the further benefits to local economies are approximately $202,500. Of course, we must not forget the advertising that we hope those northern companies are going to get as our athletes proudly wear their garments that were made in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Pollard. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Minister mentioned that there was $50,000 for promotion. Perhaps he could outline what sort of activities will

be undertaken for this $50,000?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Minister Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, I am stumped and I hope Mr. Todd is not. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Pollard. I'll direct the question, then, to Minister Todd. I think he seems braced and ready for it.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I don't have the details of what the promotional program is, but it's my understanding that this is a unique opportunity for us to show the Canadian population that we can produce a quality product designed, made and produced in the Northwest Territories. There is a basic, overall campaign before, during and after the games. I can get the details of it, if that's what the honourable Member wants, but I don't have those details at this time. The intent is to take advantage of a national event and to try to get some publicity for the products that we're currently displaying on our athletes.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Especially with my background, I appreciate efforts at promotion for products, especially those manufactured in the north. The reason that I was asking that question is, as the Ministers are aware, there's an unsuccessful bidder, who could have also made the jackets in the Northwest Territories, who is quite concerned that they also be given an opportunity for promotion of their full range of products. I wanted to find out if they were being offered an opportunity? That was the purpose of that question.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Minister Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

The gentleman, I believe, is Polar Parkas and I understand, as part of the promotion and marketing, that his products are going to be included as part of the strategy. I remember that this was brought to my attention by Mr. Dent several weeks and months ago, in an avalanche of correspondence, as well as from Mr. Koe. It is our intent not to eliminate anybody and we will go about doing our thing on the national stage.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Any other questions to this particular subject? Sports and recreation, $95,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Municipal operations and assessment, not previously authorized, $456,000. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a few questions on this item. I have been to Fort Providence, and compared to other communities, it is not all that big in size. I'm a little bit stunned, knowing other hamlet leases, that we are leasing this for $84,000. I assume this is per year. That is $7,000 a month. I want to know the square footage of that office space and how many hamlet employees are working in that office?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, Fort Providence is eligible for 265 square metres of office space, although it only occupies 210.7 square metres.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Pollard. Mr. Arvaluk.