Thank you, Ms. Mike. Alcohol, drugs and community mental health, Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Again, we have another pot of money, $576,000, that we're using for services outside of the territories. That's three or four times where we've had huge amounts of money being expended south of our border. I know there's a hell of a lot more, heck of a lot more, excuse my language. I'm sorry, I apologize. My point is, we've been promoting people to buy north, use north, use northern services, and to enhance and develop our own services and programs, and yet, continually, we're signing agreements and letting the money go south. It just doesn't make sense. Especially with the development of two or three new alcohol and drug units in the north. We should be trying to fill the spaces here rather than sending them out, and provide proper services and proper treatment facilities in the Northwest Territories. Mahsi.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, for the GNWT to get the money back, there are three criteria that must be met. The first one is, that the treatment centre not be recognized as an insured treatment centre by the provincial or territorial health ministry. The second one is, the eligible recipient is referred to a treatment centre within a community where she or he does not permanently reside. The third one is, that treatment not be provided by a treatment centre which operates with money through or under the Northwest Territories Agreement, dated March 31, 1988.
So, the eligible treatment centres, as the Minister said, include pound makers, and lodges in Bonnyville, Alberta and White Spruce, Saskatchewan. There may be federal criteria that exclude some of the places in the Northwest Territories, Mr. Chairman, and we'll have to check into that. Thank you.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Minister Pollard. Before I return to Mr. Koe. The Minister for Social Services indicated that she wanted to respond to part of that question. Minister of Social Services.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, I do agree with Mr. Koe's suggestion. The Hay River alcohol and drug treatment centre recently opened for clients this fall, and from what I understand, for the first month that treatment centre was fully booked.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
If possible, could I get a copy of that agreement?
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John Pollard Hay River
It's on its way, Mr. Chairman.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have agreed with Mr. Koe all afternoon, because our people in the NWT need jobs. And, we need to spend money, as a government, in the territories. I agree 100 per cent. I think this is a very good lesson for this public government, that people in the territories have been asking where the public money is spent. When we look through this particular supplementary appropriation, a substantial amount of money is being spent outside of the NWT. I hope that we, as elected politicians of the NWT, will abide by what the people want, to listen to what people want, and learn from them, and the next supplementary we go through will prove we have learned something. Thank you.
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Agreed.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
I'm sorry, page 24. We are going to page 25 now. Social Services, community and family support services, not previously authorized, $3.383 million. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
I don't think we want to get into the food scale issue, but I would like to talk about inflationary increase for home care support and contract homes, but not specifically those. There is no item here. There are increases for family and children services, for institutional care and contract homes. There are increases for home care support and contract homes for community and family support services. But there are no inflationary increases for senior citizens' facilities. My question is why?
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, I'll have to defer to the Minister of Social Services.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I recall correctly, these are under grants and contributions contracts. I would have to check why there is no increase for elders' facilities.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Yes, there are contract homes that are provided contributions to operate. I'm just wondering why hasn't the department hasn't provided for additional funds? They've done so for all the other contract homes. I don't know if it is an oversight, I'm not sure why they were missed. But, they have ongoing costs and I'm sure inflation has touched them, as it has touched everybody else in the north. Their costs have to be increasing also.
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