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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Health, capital, territorial hospital insurance services, special warrants, $735,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Merci. Not previously authorized, negative $1.98 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, special warrants, $735,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Not previously authorized, negative $1.98 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Department Of Social Services

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Social Services, capital, family and children's services, special warrants, $450,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Alcohol, drugs and community mental health, special warrants, $2.689 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Not previously authorized, $50,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Page 43, of the supplementary appropriation. Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Yellowknife is required to meet health and safety standards, as a result of ongoing spring flooding. Am I on the wrong page?

---Laughter

Page 23?

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The Chair John Ningark

Page 43, Social Services, capital, special warrants, total department, $3.139 million. Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

It sounded different on TV. This item has been a long-standing issue. What are they doing to this for $50,000? This is the basement, of what used to be the old receiving home, that keeps filling with water. There is a lake underneath. What are we doing for $50,000 per year?

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The Chair John Ningark

We are spending money. Mr. Minister.

---Laughter

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, this is the beginning of a fix to the building, which will eventually cost $295,000. It is estimated that the $50,000 will complete some preliminary work this year. There will be a requirement for $245,000 in

1994-95. The project was initially established in March, 1991. There was $180,000 approved through an internal reallocation. That amount was carried over into 1991-92 and $35,000 was spent on the project. The initial intent, Mr. Chairman, was to add a second story to replace inhabited areas currently located below the water table. Work on these renovations did not proceed, as there was no guarantee that this would resolve the problem. The remaining $145,000 has been carried over since 1991-92 and it is currently in the department's 1993-94 budget. The total projected cost is $440,000, which leaves, as I said before, some $295,000, of which $50,000 we are dealing with right now. The recommended option was an expansion to the main level of the existing building for the treatment and education program. This offered the most cost-effective solution, since alternate accommodation was not required. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It seems to be an ongoing saga with this building. If the records were looked at, you would see that, previous to 1991, a lot of money had been spent renovating that building. It still didn't correct the problem and we are prepared to put another $250,000. So we end up with $500,000 just in stop-gap measures. I would question the thought behind trying to salvage a building that is sitting on top of a stream. You're going to have this problem continuously, regardless of whether you put a basement on top of a basement. I just wonder if the cost-benefit of spending $500,000 on a building, that initially cost somewhere around the neighbourhood of $50,000, is a wise investment of our money? I would certainly ask the Minister of Finance, who is a very frugal person, to examine this very closely to see whether or not we're throwing good money after bad. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, the plan is to demolish and replace the existing building, not including the addition that we're talking about right now. This would result in a new treatment centre, constructed in two phases, and that includes this addition we're talking about at the present time. The funding for the second phase has been incorporated into year five of the department's 20 year capital forecast. Mr. Chairman, I think there are a lot of people around who know how much money has gone into this particular centre, so DPW has now come up with a plan to add on a little addition, knock down a part of it, and replace it in two phases. I think that, perhaps, we won't be throwing the money away. At least, I hope we won't, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Social Services, capital, special warrants, total department, $3.139 million. Mr. Koe.