Mr. Allooloo.
Debates of Feb. 18th, 1993
Topics
Supplementary To Question 260-12(3): Completion Of Fire Management Review
Question 260-12(3): Completion Of Fire Management Review
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Further Return To Question 260-12(3): Completion Of Fire Management Review
Question 260-12(3): Completion Of Fire Management Review
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
Titus Allooloo Amittuq
I will be happy to give this House the detailed plan of the company doing the review. The Members will then be able to see the work plan, dates, et cetera. This will enable the Members to have full information regarding how much time it will take to do certain things. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 260-12(3): Completion Of Fire Management Review
Question 260-12(3): Completion Of Fire Management Review
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
That was your last supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Gargan.
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Justice. The Minister made a response with regard to correctional services and the federal government coming into an agreement regarding inmates staying here based on their residency and whether they have committed a crime. During Mrs. Diane Doyle's hearing, the lawyer persistently requested that Mrs. Doyle be allowed to see a therapist in Toronto. I would like to ask the Minister whether or not there has been an exchange of service agreement completed with the Province of Ontario, so that Mrs. Doyle can take advantage of the lawyer's suggestion?
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Kakfwi.
Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, in the exchange agreement we have with the federal government, it is discussed between our officials and the Parole Board of Canada which deals with federal inmates. It is discussed as to who the federal government may request be retained here in our northern institutions. As far as I know, the person they questioned was one that was requested by the federal government to be detained here. We had, simply, complied with it. I am not certain about the specifics of the sentencing and the requirements that should be met. I cannot tell them, specifically, what happened in that instance.
Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Supplementary, Mr. Gargan.
Supplementary To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 477
Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the principles taken into account by the Supreme Court Justice when sentencing Ms. Doyle for this serious breech of trust, was that there must be a general deterrence for others in similar positions. Justice Irving was very aware of the fact that Ms. Doyle would serve a sentence of more than two years in a federal institution. I am very concerned about the message that is being sent to others by the privileged treatment that
Diane Doyle is receiving. I would like to ask the Minister why the justice process, and the fundamental principles of which Justice Irving based his decision on, is not being adhered to?
Supplementary To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Kakfwi.
Further Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, it is my view that, aside from our own particular impressions being some distance from the people who are charged with dealing with these issues, there is a fair and objective way in which federal inmates are dealt with in the process. We have, at times, been keeping people in our institutions who have committed crimes that have resulted in serious harm to people, such as sexual assaults, bodily assaults and people who have committed these offenses sometimes more than once. I think we have to keep that in perspective. I believe we are not doing the public any service by continuing to debate a particular individual sentence. The courts dealt with the individual in question. Corrections Canada, in cooperation with us, has taken on their responsibility under legislation and are dealing with it. I recognize the Member's interest in asking questions about it, but I am not comfortable with continuing this in the Legislature. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Supplementary, Mr. Gargan.
Supplementary To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, I thought the women's secure facility in Fort Smith I thought would be for women who have committed very minor offenses or light crimes. I just question why Ms. Doyle, who committed a serious offence and is sentenced for three years, is allowed to be left to serve her term here. I have a question, Mr. Speaker, to the Minister with regard to the process. After her sentence was Ms. Doyle shipped south to a penitentiary or was she intervened before the shipment could occur?
Supplementary To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
A question such as this would not normally be within the knowledge of the Minister. Would the Minister like to answer in a general sense? Mr. Kakfwi.
Further Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have no idea of the travel and movements that particular individual went through before finally being...
Further Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I do not want to challenge your comments. However, my previous questions to the Minister, respecting this specific inmate, should have allowed him to gain the knowledge that he needed to be able to answer our questions in this House. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Thank you for your comments, Mrs. Marie-Jewell, but it is not a point of order. Item 5, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell. I am sorry, you did not conclude, Mr. Kakfwi. Would you like to conclude your response?
Further Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, if I understand the question properly, the Member is inquiring as to whether, because the particular individual was sentenced to more than two years, the federal institution in the south first received her to begin her sentencing before the individual came back north to serve out the length of her term, or did the individual go straight from the time of sentencing to an institution in Fort Smith? I do not know the answer to that question. I will get back to the Member. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Question 261-12(3): Exchange Of Service Agreement With Province Of Ontario
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Zoe.
Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Henry Zoe North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Renewable Resources. This is to follow-up on my colleague's questions. The Minister indicated the review of fire management would be concluded by the end of May. The Minister also knows that the fire season in 1993 starts in May. The findings or recommendations of this review would also require approval from Cabinet as to what they want to implement from those recommendations. Is the government anticipating that whatever decisions are made would not affect this particular fire season? Thank you.
Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Allooloo.
Return To Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is more than likely that will be the case for this year. Thank you.
Return To Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Supplementary, Mr. Zoe.
Supplementary To Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Speaker, I did not quite understand the Minister's answer. He said that it would most likely be completed. I realize it will be completed by the end of May, but obviously the recommendation from that particular person who is doing the report would have to be brought to the attention of Cabinet and approval would have to be made of some sort to implement those recommendations. Because our fire season starts in May is it going to have an impact on the 1993 fire season, or are they going to wait until the following year to implement their recommendation? That was my question, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Allooloo.
Further Return To Question 262-12(3): Review Of The Fire Management Program
Question 262-12(3): Review Of Fire Management Program
Revert Back To Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 478
Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I stated earlier, more than likely, nothing will change this year and for the 1993 fire season. Probably during 1993 the policy will be in place and the changes will take place in the 1994 fire season. Thank you.