Thank you, Mr. Patterson. The chair will recognize the Premier.
Debates of Oct. 28th, 1994
Topics
Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the Minister of Justice and I are sponsoring the bill. In relation to the comfort clause and as to the point the Member is making, the legislation was put together embodying the concerns that were raised. It was assumed, after the long consultation, that the comforts of taking care of individuals were embodied in the legislation.
The other issue to carefully consider away from them and us, is by and large if it's an aboriginal person and that person requires a guardian, the chances are the guardian would be an aboriginal person. It's not intended in this legislation to have a guardian who is not of the family or close to, or anything else like that. The guardian would more than likely, more apt to be, for an aboriginal person, an aboriginal person.
The legislation in itself has gone through the necessary procedures more than any other legislation, and the question of where is this comfort, it's to be embodied in the legislation. I just wanted to make that point.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Madam Premier. General comments. The chair recognizes the Minister, Mr. Kakfwi.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just to state again, these concerns were all raised in the course of consultations. All the concerns that were heard over the course of it were dealt with appropriately, I think, and adequately.
As I say, if the Member reads the legislation and goes through it clause by clause, and he allows the proposed amendments also to be moved and dealt with, I think he will see that the concerns, as he's stating them, are already taken care of in this legislation. But we can't convince him if he doesn't know and he hasn't read the legislation. That's why I make the suggestion if, at the end of the day, after doing his homework and reading this legislation and getting adequately briefed by Legislatures, he feels his concerns are still not addressed, then we can look at it. But, as I say, we can't do it frivolously. I'm not discarding it, but I'm just asking if he could put some substance behind the concerns. He may find that the concerns have been adequately dealt with already and that's what I'm suggesting. Thank you.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. The chair recognizes the clock. It is 2:00 pm. The time for these proceedings has come and gone. The chair will rise, but before that, I would like to thank the Minister and the witnesses for assisting the committee on this matter. We look forward to seeing you again to continue the debate. Mr. Gargan and Mr. Lewis have to wait until the next day. Thank you, witnesses.
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell
I call the House back to order. Item 20, report of committee of the whole. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Whitford. Point of privilege, Mr. Patterson.
Point Of Privilege
Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit
Madam Speaker, as you may know, we've just been in committee of the whole considering Bill 3, Guardianship and Trusteeship Act. During the committee of the whole debate, during general comments on the bill, Madam Speaker, I raised some questions of principle on the general intent of the bill. I was told that I was too late, that I was frivolous, that I was lecturing and that I hadn't done by homework.
Madam Speaker, my point of privilege is that, as an ordinary Member, I feel I have the right to ask questions as a privilege during committee of the whole consideration of the bill and I would respectfully request that you review the Hansard to determine whether my privileges as an ordinary Member to debate fully at this stage of the bill have been infringed by the remarks and the attitude of the Minister presenting the bill. Thank you.
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thank you. I will report on your point of privilege once I have reviewed Hansard, Mr. Patterson. Item 20, report of committee of the whole. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Whitford.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
October 27th, 1994
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 1 and Bill 3 and Committee Report 10-12(6), and would like to report progress with one motion being adopted, and, Madam Speaker, I move that the report of committee of the whole be concurred with.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thank you. The motion is in order. Seconder for the motion, the honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake, Mr. Dent. To the motion.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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An Hon. Member
Question.
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Madam Speaker, there will be a meeting of the full Caucus immediately after adjournment this afternoon. There are meetings Monday morning at 9:00 am tomorrow morning of the Standing Committee on Legislation and at 10:30 am of the Ordinary Members' Caucus.
Orders of the day for Monday, October 31st.
1. Prayer
2. Ministers' Statements
3. Members' Statements
4. Returns to Oral Questions
5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
6. Oral Questions
7. Written Questions
8. Returns to Written Questions
9. Replies to Opening Address
10. Petitions
11. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
13. Tabling of Documents
14. Notices of Motion
15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills
16. Motions
17. First Reading of Bills
- Bill 16, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly
and Executive Council Act, No. 2
- Bill 21, An Act to Amend the Fair Practices Act
18. Second Reading of Bills
- Bill 18, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4,
1993-94
19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
- Tabled Document 14-12(6), "Open for Business" - Privatizing the Northwest Territories Power
Corporation
- Tabled Document 23-12(6), Report of the 1993-94
Electoral District Boundaries Commission
Northwest Territories
- Tabled Document 36-12(6), "Action Plan - Consolidation - Health and Social Services"
- Minister's Statement 11-12(6), Return to Session
- Committee Report 10-12(6), Report on the Review
of the 1995-96 Capital Estimates
- Committee Report 11-12(6), Report on the First
Annual Report (1992-93) of the Languages
Commissioner of the NWT
- Committee Report 13-12(6), Report on the
Elimination of the Alcohol and Drug Board of
Management
- Bill 1, Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1995-96
- Bill 2, Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act
- Bill 3, Guardianship and Trusteeship Act
- Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Arctic College Act
- Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act
- Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly
and Executive Council Act
20. Report of Committee of the Whole
21. Third Reading of Bills
22. Orders of the Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell
Thank you. This House stands adjourned until Monday, October 31st at 1:30 pm.
---ADJOURNMENT