This is page numbers 1275 - 1321 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was questions.

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Tabled Document 118-13(3): Article Produced By "mandate West" - Canadian Federation Of Independent Business Regarding Private Sector Subsidies
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

Tabling of documents. Mr. Erasmus.

Tabled Document 119-13(3): Letter And Resolutionrregarding Tourism From The NWT Treaty 8 Tribal Council
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

October 17th, 1996

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table a letter and a resolution regarding tourism, which I received from the NWT Treaty 8 Tribal Council, Tabled Document No. 119-13(3). The resolution was passed at Treaty 8's Annual General Assembly this summer, and resolves in part, that the rights of first refusal be given to First Nations within the Treaty 8 territory, to existing lodges or other operations within our traditional territory.

Tabled Document 119-13(3): Letter And Resolutionrregarding Tourism From The NWT Treaty 8 Tribal Council
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

Thank you. Tabling of documents. Mr. Krutko.

Tabled Document 120-13(3): Letter From The Dene Nation To The Hon. Ron Irwin Regarding Tl'oondih Healing Camp
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table a letter from the Dene Nation to the Hon. Ron Irwin, in regards to Tl'oondih Healing Camp.

Tabled Document 120-13(3): Letter From The Dene Nation To The Hon. Ron Irwin Regarding Tl'oondih Healing Camp
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

Thank you. Tabling of documents.

Tabled Document 120-13(3): Letter From The Dene Nation To The Hon. Ron Irwin Regarding Tl'oondih Healing Camp
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of privilege. In yesterday's unedited Hansard, Thursday, October 17th, there is a series of questions asked to Ms. Thompson regarding recognition of band councils. If I recall correctly, these questions were asked by Mr. Krutko and not by myself, however, in the Hansard, they are attributed to myself. I realize that the normal process, is that we would in writing inform the Hansard office of these changes, but since we are going on to the end of the session, and these documents are received through electronic mail, and looked through by staff, media, and other individuals, that I wanted to make note.

Tabled Document 120-13(3): Letter From The Dene Nation To The Hon. Ron Irwin Regarding Tl'oondih Healing Camp
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

Thank you. The Chair appreciates your comments on it. The Chair is responsible for the Hansard. I will do follow-up on it. Also, just to remind the Members to that, you do receive copies of the unedited Hansards of the previous day's session, and it would not hurt for the Members to just go over your questions, make the corrections necessary, that same day that you receive the Hansard, so that the Hansard department knows about it. If they do not, they will print it in final copy.

We are still in tabling of documents.

Item 14: Notices Of Motions
Item 14: Notices Of Motions

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The Speaker

Notices of motion

Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills
Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

Notice of motions for first reading of bills. Mr. Ootes.

Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills
Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to deal with Motion 23-13(3) today. It is support for community empowerment.

Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills
Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

Thank you. The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent to deal with Motion 23-13(3). Are there any nays? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent. Mr. Ootes.

Motion 23-13(3): Support For Community Empowerment
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

WHEREAS this government has developed a community empowerment initiative;

AND WHEREAS this initiative was developed in response to people's desire in communities for control over their affairs;

AND WHEREAS the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs initial consultation indicates that a number of community leaders are interested in more control over their affairs;

AND WHEREAS this government has committed to providing support and training to those communities that undertake community empowerment;

AND WHEREAS an independent review has been requested as to how the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs assesses and determines the financial health of communities, through their municipal reporting processes.

AND WHEREAS several communities have already taken over certain areas of control from the government of the Northwest Territories;

NOW THEREFORE I move, seconded by the Honourable Member for Yellowknife North, that this Legislative Assembly expresses its support for peoples and communities, to have control over their own affairs;

AND FURTHER that transfer of responsibility occur to a community only when that community has clearly demonstrated the desire to take over greater responsibilities;

AND FURTHERMORE that the Executive Council ensure that the time frames identified for a community to assume greater control are realistic;

AND FURTHERMORE that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs ensure that communities are provided with support and training necessary to enable them to take on additional governance responsibilities.

Motion 23-13(3): Support For Community Empowerment
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The Speaker

Thank you. Your motion is in order. To your motion. Mr. Ootes, do you wish to speak to your motion? Mr. Ootes.

Motion 23-13(3): Support For Community Empowerment
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Yes. It is felt that this motion will give a direction to the government. I think the items are self-explanatory, and it is intended so that we can revisit this in the future, so that the comments of the Members made during the last several days can be revisited, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 23-13(3): Support For Community Empowerment
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The Speaker

Thank you. Seconder of the motion. Mr. Erasmus.

Motion 23-13(3): Support For Community Empowerment
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to follow up on what Mr. Ootes has indicated. All the Members, basically have spoken in support of community empowerment. However, we want to ensure that the communities are not set up for failure, that they do receive training and support, and that they actually do want to take on community empowerment, and it is not being forced upon them. With that in mind, we are making this motion, and we support it. Thank you.

Motion 23-13(3): Support For Community Empowerment
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The Speaker

Thank you. To the motion. Question is being called. All those in favour. All those opposed. All those abstaining. The motion is carried. Thank you.

---Applause.

Motion 23-13(3): Support For Community Empowerment
Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker

Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 1-13(3), Tabled Document 83-13(3), Committee Report 10-13(3), and, do we have another motion? And Committee Report 11-13(3).

Again, on March 28th, a motion was passed by which authority was given to the Speaker 3-13(3), I will order you into Committee of the Whole to sit beyond the regular adjournment, or until such time as the committee is prepared to report. Mrs. Groenewegen is in the chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I would like to call committee of the whole to order. There are a number of items before the committee today. What is the wish of the Members? Mr. Ootes.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you Madam Chair. I would recommend that we take Committee Report 10-13(3), Report of the Standing

Committee on Government Operations, followed by Committee Report 11, Government Operations on Chief Electoral Office Report.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Is the committee agreed? Alright, we will begin then to deal with the Report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations, Report on the 1996/97 Mid-Year Review. Mr. Erasmus.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you Madam Chair.

Under the Legislative Assembly, the various reports provided to the committee included a projected shortfall of $350,000, in the Legislative Assembly's budget, 1996/97. Much of the extra cost is related to committees meeting more often than was originally expected in the budget.

On the other hand, committee members noted that most of the reductions in contractual costs recommended during the business plan review process earlier this year, are being achieved, and that cuts to Members' compensation and pensions were also achieved, as planned. Final calculations of the actual savings and reductions to Members' pensions will be forthcoming from the administrators of the pension plan.

Committee Members also noted a concern regarding affirmative action levels among employees of the Legislative Assembly. Under the Affirmative Action Policy Review, in 1989, the government implemented the Affirmative Action Policy, which included a provision for the policy to be reviewed in 1994. A comprehensive review was undertaken in 1994/95. In June, the chairman of the Financial Management Board presented a draft report on the review of the Affirmative Action Policy to the standing committee. Committee members have previously expressed concerns about the policy. All noted that the policy did not work. That is, it did not raise levels of employment within the GNWT for affected groups significantly. Members noted that the problem was especially serious for professional and management positions.

The standing committee agreed that a broader approach is needed. Members suggested that a broad northern employment policy be developed. Such a policy would recognize that hiring practices are only one part of achieving a goal of a public service representative of the population that it serves. Education and career training are equally important issues that must be addressed in order to attain that goal, and a broader employment policy would include measures to deal with those issues.

The committee also agreed that such a policy would be more effective if more of the implementation was handled at the regional or community levels. Members suggested that one reason the policy has not been effective to date, is its top down nature.

The committee was disappointed that the draft report, rather than providing options and suggested courses of actions, merely seemed to ask more questions. The chairman of the FMB asked for direction from the committee, and following the June meeting, the standing committee presented its concerns to the chairman. Committee members expect to see a new draft of the policy review this fall.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Are there any general comments? If not, does the committee concur that the report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations is concluded?

--Agreed.

We will proceed now to the Government Operations Report on Review of Tabled Document 30-13(3), Chief Electoral Officers Report on 1995 Election. Mr. Erasmus.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. We would like to provide the details of the Report of the Standing Committee of Government Operations on the Report of the Chief Electoral Officer. During the 1995 election, the majority of the election administration was handled in the north by northern election officials; however, overall control of the

process and many of the special approvals were still handled by the Chief Electoral Officer in Ottawa.

In his last two reports there have been recommendations that the N.W.T. should assume responsibility for it's own elections. Elections Canada could provide support, and advice, only on request, as it does for other jurisdictions, both within Canada, and elsewhere.

The standing committee agrees completely that the administration of elections should be the responsibility of northerners. The Chief Electoral Officer has already made this recommendation to the federal government. It is now time for the territorial government to follow up on this recommendation.

Negotiations should begin immediately to ensure the responsibility is transferred prior to the 1999 elections. Funding for Territorial elections are currently fully covered by the Office of the Chief Electoral Officer. There is no specific budget for these elections which could be transferred. Instead the elections are funded by the federal government with statutory authority money.

The Chief Electoral Officer suggested during his appearance before the standing committee that these funds could be rechanneled through the Government of the Northwest Territories. He further suggested the amount in question is probably about $1 million, for the two territories combined.

Madam Chair, I move that this Committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories immediately begin negotiations with the Federal government for the transfer of full responsibility and the financial resources for the administration of territorial elections and further, that the Legislative Assembly appoint a Chief Electoral Officer, well in advance of the next election.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

The motion is in order. To the motion. Question is being called. All those in favour of the motion? Those opposed? The motion is carried. Thank you, Mr. Erasmus.