Good morning. Orders of the day, item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Todd.

Mr. Speaker, the staff housing strategy implemented by the previous government provided that employee tenants of government-owned tied staff housing would be required to pay for their own heating fuel effective April 1, 1996.

This government has considered the move to user pay for fuel in relation to our accelerated timetable for removing ourselves from the position of landlord to our employees. As a result, it has been decided to defer indefinitely the implementation of user pay for fuel.

Mr. Speaker, it is the position of this government that the matter of user pay can better be addressed by selling our housing units to employees for an affordable price and by encouraging home ownership in other ways. This is a matter that I intend to address in a more comprehensive manner in the upcoming budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to express my concern about the announcements made yesterday by the Minister of Finance about wages and benefits for nonunionized employees. I think we know that, judging from the past, this is a good indication of what will happen to our unionized employees as well. Mr. Speaker, I noted that the Minister of Finance stated yesterday that the Cabinet's objectives are to be fair and reasonable. Mr. Speaker, I am concerned that these deep cuts to vacation travel benefits and settlement allowances will be especially hard on my constituents who live in small, remote communities off the highway system. People who live in Yellowknife and other communities on the highway system don't get a settlement

Mr. Speaker, the vacation travel benefit now given to my constituents is also not taxable. Mr. Speaker, cutting the VTA and settlement allowances back for my constituents in Baffin Central means that they are losing a lot more than people who live close to Yellowknife.

Shame, shame.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement, please.

The Member for Baffin Central is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Enuaraq.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. They are losing a lot more money and they are losing a much larger tax deduction. This is my concern. Mr. Speaker, I believe all Members accept that cuts must be made. My concern, Mr. Speaker, is that those cuts should be made in a manner which is fair to every employee regardless of where they live.

I am very concerned that my constituents and others like them who live in remote communities off the highway system, will have to make a much larger sacrifice than other comparable employees because they live so far away from Yellowknife. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, fellow colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I rise this morning on a matter of extreme urgency. At 5:15 a.m. Mountain Standard Time, I was proceeding towards the Legislative Assembly of the

Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, to the immediate left of the entrance to the Assembly, I spied something amiss. On closer inspection, as it was still dark, I could discern multi flashing lights. It was at that moment, a portal opened and I saw for the first time these extra -terrestrials.

Mr. Speaker, the leader came toward me and with the most pedagogical mind control ever witnessed, informed me that in fact these creatures were from the planet John and they called themselves Toddites. Mr. Speaker, they were dressed in pink slips and, through mind control, explained to me that fiscal destruction was happening on the planet John and they came to the planet Earth to escape and procreate. At that moment, I knew what I had to do, Mr. Speaker. Through procreation, many more of these pink-slipped creatures would be allowed to inhabit the earth, and we would be overrun by these Toddites.

Quickly remembering the song "Solidarity Forever," Mr. Speaker, I began singing at the top of my lungs. Mr. Speaker, the Toddites from the planet John beat a hasty retreat, their pink slips fluttering in the wind. Mr. Speaker, when I awoke, I was covered in sweat. It was then I realized that it had been a horrible nightmare; or was it? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 3, Members' statements. Mr.

Barnabas.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement concerns the airport at Resolute Bay. I understand that the Government of Canada, which controls flight service stations in Resolute Bay and other locations in the NWT, has plans to sell these operations to a new non-profit corporation controlled by a major Canadian Airlines, air traffic controllers and business-jet owners. This is all planned for June 1996. This sale will be done through Bill C-20, now before the House of Commons.

Mr. Speaker, the Resolute Bay flight service station has a staff of six, including a manager. This facility provides vital services to aircraft in the High Arctic, especially at the airport in Resolute Bay, which is an important route and alternate for northern and circumpolar flights. I am concerned about the future of the Resolute Bay flight service station and others in the NWT as this privatization plan moves forward.

Mr. Speaker, I understand that Bill C-20 gives the Minister of Transport Canada an effective veto over the elimination of air traffic control services in remote and northern communities and that the government has said it intends to put in place a special process to review any planned service cuts in those regions.

Mr. Speaker, I will be urging our Minister of Transportation, the Honourable Jim Antoine, to inform the federal Minister of how important these flight service stations are for northern and circumpolar flights and urge him to continue these

services in the North. If cutbacks must be considered, Mr. Speaker, I would hope that our Minister can persuade the federal Minister to ensure that at least community air radio stations are established for at least the same hours of service provided previously by the flight service stations. Mr. Speaker, I ask for unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

The Member for High Arctic is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Barnabas.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Later today, I will be asking the Minister if he is willing to support these goals. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Thompson.

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to mention the dogsled race from Arviat to Rankin inlet. The people in Rankin Inlet worked really hard. There were a lot of hours put in by the volunteers because they want to help the communities. I would like to recognize them at this time. I think the race is just about completed. I am not sure exactly their location now. I think they are around Whale Cove. They can usually hear through the radio. I would like to thank the organizing committee for the race in Rankin Inlet and their elders. There are a lot of unilingual people who are quite capable of organizing such a race. There were people who came from all over. The person I want to recognize is my brother-in-law, Harry Towtongie, who worked really hard. Without his hard work, I don't think this would have gone through; he worked really hard. We have to recognize the importance of the people who organized such an event. I don't think they will be covered in the media too much, but they will be covered through the radio. I believe they have to be recognized. Thank you.

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Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my Member's statement is regarding the issue of housing in Taloyoak. I have received a letter from the Taloyoak Housing Association requesting the Government of the Northwest Territories recognize the shortage of housing in Taloyoak, as well as in other communities across the North.

Mr. Speaker, when I travel throughout the Kitikmeot region, I have noticed that there are some GNWT staff housing units that are not being occupied by anyone, while we have an extreme shortage of public units in the community. This is the case in Taloyoak. The Taloyoak Housing Association is requesting, since we have a number of empty GNWT staff houses in that community, that those units be allocated to the local Inuit who are employed by the GNWT, who are living in public units at this time, in order to recognize the shortage of public units in the Community. They should be allocated to people who were born and have lived in the community and have worked for the government for many years. They should be eligible. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Item 3, Members' statements Mr. O'Brien.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I had a statement prepared on the economy, but I realized that one of my colleagues will be speaking on the same issue, so I made a change. I would like to introduce to my honourable colleagues a new toy that was developed in the Eastern Arctic. This toy is capable of speaking for long periods of time on matters from honey buckets in Hard Luck Bay to the transfer of college programs in Iqaluit. Mr. Speaker, I would like to show you this new toy. It is called the "Eddy Picco speaking doll."

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Point of order, Mr. Picco. No? Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank my honourable colleague from Iqaluit for his kind invitation the day before yesterday to attend the next annual Nunavut Trade Show and Charity Auction and the opportunity to bid for his services. Mr. Speaker, I can inform Mr. Picco that if it is humanly possible, I will be happy to attend this fine event next year. If I am so fortunate, I would also like to put Mr. Harper on notice that he had better sharpen his pen for the next year's auction. I can assure him I would pay a great deal to simply keep Mr. Picco quiet for one hour.

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However, I am not convinced that it is humanly possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Ootes.

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Evaloarjuk.

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to express my gratitude to all the honourable Members for supporting me. I will speak to my relatives about what you had written down for their support. Thank you. I would like to thank all the Members,

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Thank You, Mr. Evaloarjuk. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.

Mr. Speaker, I wrote a letter to the Honourable Charles Dent and Mr. Kelvin Ng on March 7, 1996, and to date I have not received any response regarding the building and learning strategy program without any notice to Wha Ti First Nation. They had to use the previous year's profits to train the project manager because $20,000 was withdrawn and was not made available for training dollars as part of the housing project costs from the Department of Education, Culture and Employment.

Mr. Speaker, the problems do not end here. The Wha Ti First Nation was not only hit financially due to the loss of $20,000, the Housing Corporation wanted the Wha Ti First Nation to agree on administering their housing programs on a fixed price and stated that if they had not signed an agreement before March 31, 1996, the Housing Corporation threatened that the housing project would go out to tender.

Mr. Speaker, a letter from the Housing Corporation dated February 27, 1996, to the Wha Ti First Nation stated that in the coming year, construction will be up for tender. The Wha Ti First Nation has a serious concern about the manner in which contracts are being forced upon them and about how numerous training dollars can be cut without notice to the people who will be mostly affected and will drastically affect the community's ability to successfully bid with any other bidders in a housing project. I do not accept the way the programs are being administered by the two departments, and have serious concerns about how transfers of housing projects to the communities are being handled.

Mr. Speaker, I will have a question for both the Honourable Charles Dent and Mr. Kelvin Ng at the appropriate time today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You may wonder what this little piece of paper is here. Just for your information, Mr. Erasmus is going to keep track of me and the number of times I speak in Members' statements from now on.

This afternoon, Members of this House will be playing hockey ... Sorry, will be skating.

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Let me try that again. Members of this House will be attempting to copy what is being called one of Canada's national sports, against the local media team. What is significant about this event? Let me tell you the irony of this event. The team of MLAs will be playing in a hockey rink in Yellowknife, the operation and maintenance of which is subsidized and paid for by the taxes of the citizens and businesses of Yellowknife. The original building was built by the sponsorship of the owners of the local mines. The labour to build the Gerry Murphy Arena was supplied on a volunteer basis by the residents of Yellowknife. Then, when times get tough, the community that grew by virtue of the fact that they had a hard-working, industrious population, a vibrant business community, gets slashed in a Draconian manner that was demonstrated by the government in this House yesterday.

I will be asking the Minister of Finance to explain this new math where he said, and I quote:

"...that the job losses in headquarters will be slightly higher." Mr. Speaker, you don't create prosperity in a family by stealing from another family member who took the initiative of hard work and worked smarter than another member of the family. Bear in mind that when you take this slash-and-burn attitude towards the community, it flies in the face of investors from outside the Northwest Territories where they look at what is going on and say they don't went to risk their money in the NWT.

Look at how they treat their communities.

The successful investor will say there is no significant benefit in being prosperous. The government will not allow it. Look at what they did to their capital. We need investment in the Territories. We need the jobs that will get people off of social programs and give dignity back to people; the dignity and pride of having a job and the social additions that it will create. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Dent.

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Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 3, Members' statements. Are there any further Members' statements? Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you. Welcome to the Assembly. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Henry.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to acknowledge a group in the gallery. Today we have a group of visiting students who are part of a program called Northern Experience '96. I would like to acknowledge Jensenne, Erin and Ann of Calgary, Jamie from Drumheller, Lara and Kristin from Lloydminster, Charelle of North Battleford, Anita from Peace River, Anya and Chris of Red Deer and Laura of Swift Current. The northern experience program has beet) sponsored by the local Yellowknife Rotary Club. On behalf of the Assembly, I would like to welcome them to Yellowknife and wish them a pleasant visit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Welcome to the Assembly. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. See, Mr. Todd, I can be quiet for a few seconds.

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Mr. Speaker, yesterday I tabled the response of the Minister of Education on the petition supporting keeping programs at Nunatta campus of Nunavut Arctic College. Mr. Speaker, I have had some time to review the consultative report on the proposed transfers. Mr. Speaker, the report did not alleviate my fears of the cost implications. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Education. When will he announce to this House how many programs, what programs and when said-programs currently offered elsewhere in the NWT, will be offered in Nunavut? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister has said earlier in this House over the past few months that because of third-party funding of programs, he does not feel that Nunatta Campus in Iqaluit will be hurt by the said-program transfers. Mr. Speaker, with the continued reductions in Pathways funding by the federal government, which is the largest third-party funder of programs at Nunatta Campus, how does he expect the campus to make up that shortfall?

Mr. Evaloarjuk, are you getting translation? Mr. Dent.

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Barnabas.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier this morning, I discussed my concern about the future of flight service stations after the sale of Transport Canada's flight service stations to NavCan. My question is to the Minister of Transportation. Does the Minister of Transportation agree that the flight service stations in the Resolute Bay airport and other NWT airports are important to the service for northern and polar air transportation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Minister of Transportation, Mr. Antoine.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning to everyone. Mr. Speaker, the honourable Member for High Arctic has concerns about the flight service stations in Resolute Bay and other parts of the Northwest Territories. I agree that the type of work that the flight service stations in the North do -- they monitor weather and they also report on runway conditions at these airports -- is very important to the safe and reliable air navigation that is very necessary here, particularly in our remote northern airports. Thank you.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Barnabas.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the federal Minister of Transport exercise his powers under Bill C-20, to veto any planned closures of northern flight service stations including the flight service station in Resolute Bay? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the federal Minister of Transport has committed to consult with the Government of the Northwest Territories on any future changes to the air navigation services at Our northern remote sites. NavCan is a commercialized company that is going to be taking over from Transport Canada in the operation of air navigation service, and they will assume this commitment.

Mr. Speaker, rather than urging the federal Minister to invoke the veto provision, the territorial Department of Transportation would prefer to convert the flight service stations to the community air radio stations, as has been successfully done in other airports in the North such as Tuktoyaktuk, Cambridge Bay and Kugluktuk, which is Coppermine. In terms of local training and employment benefits, CARS -- the community air radio stations -- can be an even more attractive program than the flight service stations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Rabesca.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Honourable Charles Dent, based on my statement today. Mr. Dent, has your department made any decision regarding my request that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment allocate $20,000 this year to go towards Wha Ti's expenditures for their allotment of funds for training

which should have been in the distribution of funds this year?

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

Thank you. The question has been taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to be put off for a moment or two. The Minister of Finance is absent from the House and that is to whom my question is to be addressed.

Speaker's Ruling

Mr. Henry, you are out of order. The rules indicate that any person who is absent from the Chamber cannot be mentioned by name.

Mr. Speaker, I apologize for that. I would ask that my question be put off for a few minutes.

The Member has the option to ask the Premier. He can redirect his question to the Premier, if he chooses; if not, we can go to the next person who wishes to ask a question. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with the release yesterday by the Minister of Finance regarding the number of people who are being laid off and the reductions in pay and benefits, it behooves this government to make decisions for logistic financial and administrative reasons. Yesterday, the Premier stated that MACA would be the lead department in the regions, taking over the functions of the Executive. Will the Minister of MACA inform this House how her department plans to implement these responsibilities ties?

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mrs. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will refer the question to the Premier.

Mr. Premier.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With MACA being the lead department in community empowerment, under normal conditions in the regions when issues arise,

MACA will play a coordinating effort. When an initiative affects several departments in a region and you need coordination, we will -for example, if it's DPW, the Housing Corporation or Transportation -appoint on that given issue, one department to lead it and see it through. Thank you.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Premier table in this House the actual cost savings that he envisions by devolving the functions of the Executive in the regions and by taking it over by the lead department -- as he said yesterday in the House -- by MACA, and when can we expect this?

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member is aware, we will be tabling the budget in this House, I believe in May. All that information will be available at that time for all the general public. But all indications that we have as a government, so far, state very, very clearly -as we have shared with Members of this House -- that the annual savings will be $1 million by eliminating the regional directors of this government. Thank you.

Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Mr. Speaker, I noticed yesterday, the figures tabled by the Finance Minister, but June 30th seems to be the cut-off date for a lot of the people who were discussed. In three short months, there won't be anyone left in the Executive offices. My earlier question still stands because I haven't received an answer on what will be happening to the role of the Executive in the regions.

Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said previously, the elimination of the regional officers and the regional directors will save this government a substantial amount of dollars. We also propose to keep a certain amount of dollars within the Executive budget for a transitional period, and for a period of time that we have to work with the communities for community empowerment. We will have dollars in place to make sure that that transfer occurs, and we will put a plan to this House through the budget process of how this will all happen. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I apologize for my oversight earlier. My question is to the Minister of Finance. The Minister tells us that in Yellowknife we have 2,212 employees in the government. He also tells us that there are 150 lay-offs, 72 of which will be in Yellowknife. Could the Minister tell me what percentage 72 is of 150?

Minister of Finance ... That is a very detailed, technical question which I don't know if it's on top of the Minister's head to respond to, but I will allow the Minister to respond. Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to point Out to my honourable colleagues there are 2,212 employees in Yellowknife. As I said yesterday and will say again today, out of the 150 positions, we've managed to cut in a caring and compassionate way, that the only actual layoffs are 72 which is three per cent of the total employees in Yellowknife. Thank you.

Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Thank you, Mr. Minister, for answering a question I didn't ask. My questions was could you tell me what 72 is of 150. 1 realize it may be a technical question, but that's around 50 per cent.

Mr. Speaker, I have supported and realized right from the beginning that job cuts would be necessary. I supported that. I think it's imperative that we get our fiscal house in order, and one component of that work would be to, unfortunately, lay-off some of the people who provide services to the government. With that, my question would be, when most other provinces or territories in the country where the capital city is -- and I will read examples of Alberta, where 53 per cent of their total government employees are located in their capital city; in Manitoba, 56 per cent of their employees are located in their capital city; in Newfoundland -- which has a large number of small communities -- 75 per cent of their government employees are located in their capital city; in Nova Scotia, 68 per cent of their government employees are located in their capital city; in the Yukon, 82 per cent of the government employees are located in the capital city. What does this government know better about the economies of scale that would see Yellowknife's numbers go from 35 per cent to much less?

Mr. Todd.

Mr. Speaker, it is Friday, so I will be kind to the honourable Member. This is not Newfoundland, this is not the Yukon, this is not Alberta; there are 52

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ningark.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, because my question touches more than one portfolio -Public Works and Services, Housing, Personnel -- I will direct my question to the Premier of this government. As I indicated earlier in my Member's statement about the request from the Taloyoak Housing Association concerning the shortage of housing, in that community there are some public units without running water. We have overcrowding in homes in that community at this point. Will the Premier seriously consider either turning over the empty GNWT units to the housing association in that community or allowing the GNWT employees who live in that community to move to vacant GNWT units? Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Premier.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In this day and age with the shortage of housing in the Northwest Territories, we should not have any empty houses in the Northwest Territories. I completely agree with the Member. Also, previously, as a government, we have turned administration of staff housing over to the Housing Corporation so that this type of problem should not happen. I understand that this function will be completed by April 1 st of this year. By all means, it should mean that you never have staff housing sitting empty when people in the communities need a roof over their head. So I will talk to the Minister of DPW as well as the Minister of Housing and address that issue so that we do not have empty staff housing at the community level. I would like to thank the Member for bringing that issue to our attention. Mahsi.

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Minister of Renewable

Resources, on the subject of our developing Baffin fishery. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister if lip is aware of pending Baffin licence applications for about 3,000 tons of groundfish in the waters of Davis Strait.

Minister of Renewable Resources, Mr. Kakfwi.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Enuaraq.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask Mr. Kakfwi if he supports the applications from Baffin for a fishing licence.

Mr. Kakfwi.

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Enuaraq.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister and his officials convey their support for these licence applications to the federal Minister of Fisheries and Oceans? Thank you.

Mr. Kakfwi.

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Krutko.

Minister of Transportation, Mr. Antoine.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll have to take this question as notice since there is some detail that I'll have to get the department to come up with. I'll reply to the Member after I get it. Thank you.

Thank you. The question has been taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Erasmus.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just noted that the press is not here today. I imagine they must be out practising for the big game this afternoon.

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My question is for the Minister responsible for Personnel. Yesterday, in response to my question with regard to the northern-born students, he indicated there would be a directive going out concerning hiring northern-born Students and that the northern-born students would be hired and given preferential treatment. What I would like to know is will there be a central clearing-house for these students or do they have to apply directly to the departments?

Minister of Personnel, Mr. Morin.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Each department will be recruiting its own students Linder the guidelines that are put forward by this government. Personnel will be providing all departments with the copies of the applications it has received. Education will also be playing a coordinated role on the whole issue of hiring our students who come back from southern institutions or post-secondary institutions. Hopefully, we can try our best to supply jobs for all our students this summer. Thank you.

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understood that this initiative to amalgamate Personnel into the other departments was going to save time, energy and money. If each department is going to have to be doing their own personnel recruitment, it seems to me that there are going to be more people doing this than before. Could the Minister explain to me how this is going to save time and money by doing it this way?