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Conflicting Development Initiatives On Northern Bathurst Island
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It seems like our government may not be involved in this important decision which will affect my community, Mr. Speaker. I understand that the Government of the Northwest Territories has so far not taken a position on these issues. I wish to say today that I will be relying on the Minister of the Department of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources, Renewable Resources and Economic Development and Tourism, Mr. Kakfwi, to help ensure that the right decision is taken on this important issue. I will say that I believe Polaris Mine is an important part of the economy of my region and the Northwest Territories, although I would very much like to see them employ more of my constituents. I would be

concerned if the mine were to close in a few years because they are denied access to new supplies of ore. On the other hand, I know there are concerns regarding calving grounds of Perry caribou at northern Bathurst Island and they must be protected.

Mr. Speaker, I hope, in working with Mr. Kakfwi, we can find a balanced, reasonable way of approaching these possible conflicts. I will have general comments and questions later today when we are dealing with replies to the budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Conflicting Development Initiatives On Northern Bathurst Island
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Barnabas. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.

Tribute To John Mackenzie Of Rae-edzo
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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Recently in my home community of Rae-Edzo, we had a passing of a well liked, hard-working family man, Mr. John Mackenzie. This man was struck down in the prime of his life. He had a family to watch grow, a family who enjoyed his company and who had everything to look forward to. Unfortunately, like many others in the North, he had cancer. As many know, this is a terrible ordeal for families and friends and, in many cases, the comfort of others makes life seem better.

Today, I would like to thank the honourable Minister, Stephen Kakfwi, for caring about the needs of the family by attending the funeral and providing his condolences to the family. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tribute To John Mackenzie Of Rae-edzo
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Fisheries Opportunities In Central Baffin Region
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to use two seconds of my time to say you are looking rather nice today, with the fancy decoration around your neck.

--- Applause

Mr. Speaker, I would like to bring Members of this House up to date on the applications made recently to the federal Minister of Fisheries and Oceans for the right to catch groundfish in all waters next to Baffin Island. Applications for licences to catch these fish, which are in our waters, were made by all Baffin communities, through the Qikiqtaaluk Wildlife Federation and, as well, the communities of Pangnirtung, Broughton Island and Qikiqtaaluk Corporation.

The Minister of Fisheries and Oceans gave a total of 1,500 tonnes to Baffin Island applicants and gave the largest amount of the fish quota to the Qikiqtaaluk Wildlife Board to distribute as they felt would be fair to the Baffin communities. I am pleased to report that the Qikiqtaaluk Wildlife Board met recently and they agreed on a fair way of dividing up the quota throughout the region. I understand the board is willing to look at ways of developing opportunities for certain interested communities, where it is appropriate, to become more involved in the fishery now that we have been allocated about 1,500 tonnes throughout the Baffin region.

I believe it will be possible and desirable that plans be developed so that the most possible benefits can flow to our communities. For example, I am very pleased that my own community of Broughton Island is being assisted to consider no less than six possible opportunities which could result in employment and other spin-off benefits from the fisheries in that community. One of the most interesting ideas they have come up with is to use the excellent harbour in Broughton Island to establish a public cold storage facility. Using surplus buildings from a nearby DEW Line site, this storage space would be very handy for vessels fishing in the area.

Mr. Speaker, I am seeking unanimous consent to continue with my statement.

Fisheries Opportunities In Central Baffin Region
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Baffin Central is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed.

Fisheries Opportunities In Central Baffin Region
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. They could unload the fish at Broughton Island for shipment to the fish plant in Pangnirtung or shipment south. There might also be the possibility of resupplying the fishing vessels when they come in to unload their product. This opportunity could create desperately-needed local jobs for the constituents of Broughton Island. I also know there are plans to pursue additional Atlantic groundfish quotas from the Canadian competitive quota in area OA north of Cape Dyer. These waters lie alongside my constituency. If we could get a quota from those waters given to us, it would present a splendid opportunity for my home community of Clyde River to become involved.

I am encouraged that the Department of Fisheries and Oceans' officials have apparently been very encouraging about the idea of exploratory fishing being granted for these waters next to my riding.

Mr. Speaker, I wish to conclude by saying that I am very grateful that my constituents have the benefit of the full and active support of Baffin MLAs and the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Minister of Renewable Resources and Economic Development and Tourism, for these important initiatives to create jobs and economic opportunities for my constituents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Fisheries Opportunities In Central Baffin Region
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. I would like to thank you for your kind words. I was a little worried about whether I was dressed all right. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Krutko.

Need To Enhance Sporting Facilities In Mackenzie-delta Area
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you all know, in 1995, the Arctic Winter Games Committee made a decision to hold the Arctic Winter Games for 1998 in the city of Yellowknife. There was an application put forth by the town of Inuvik and the surrounding communities of the Mackenzie

Delta, but they were told they did not have adequate facilities to host such an event. The people in the Mackenzie-Delta -- who have been known to stage large events such as environmental conferences, the northern games and the Midway Lake Music Festival -- took great offence to this decision. The people of the Mackenzie-Delta felt their ability to host such an event was misjudged.

One of the reasons the committee gave with regard to not awarding the games to Inuvik was the lack of proper facilities. A large gymnasium in the second-largest community in the region would only enhance Inuvik's ability to host the next Arctic Winter Games after division.

This is one of the questions I'll be raising later on with the appropriate Minister: What is the possibility of establishing a larger gymnasium in the community of Fort McPherson -they are presently constructing a new facility -- so that the ability of the Mackenzie-Delta region to host the next Arctic Winter Games will not be jeopardized because of not having the facilities? Thank you.

Need To Enhance Sporting Facilities In Mackenzie-delta Area
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Unsolicited And Unsigned Messages And Complaints
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the past several weeks, I have been given unsolicited advice and supposed inside information on a range of different items. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the calls I receive from the different areas of the NWT but I want to say, for the record, that, unless the letters are signed and phone messages et cetera have a contact number of the person making said allegation or providing the unsolicited advice, there is little I can do with this information.

---Applause

Mr. Speaker, we live in a democracy. Canada and the NWT are not communists, fascists, totalitarians or dictatorships. It is not a place where we partake in witch hunts or vendettas. I will act on information that is signed, but because we don't have an ombudsman's office or a similar mechanism and because we don't have party politics, it becomes very difficult in handling complaints.

For the record, I take this role as a Member of the Legislative Assembly of the NWT very seriously. Integrity, Mr. Speaker, has to be first and foremost in our dealings within the role that we participate. I will continue to represent my constituents to the best of my ability and I appreciate any signed and, as aforementioned, personally identified messages received. I will act on them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--- Applause

Unsolicited And Unsigned Messages And Complaints
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Tribute To Hon. Justice Mark De Weerdt On Retirement
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to pay tribute to a most distinguished citizen in the Northwest Territories, the Honourable Mr. Justice Mark de Weerdt. Justice de Weerdt recently retired from the position of Senior Judge of the Supreme Court of the Northwest Territories, a position he held for 15 years. Justice de Weerdt is much respected in court circles. He and his wife, Anne, are admired as fine citizens of the Northwest Territories.

His history in the Northwest Territories stretches back several decades. He is the third judge of the Supreme Court of the NWT and he succeeded two other great northern judges: Judge Jack Sissons, the first judge to serve the NWT and known as "the flying judge of the North;" and, William Morrow. History will remember these three judges as the pioneers of the northern justice system.

In the 1950s and 1960s, Justice de Weerdt served as a lawyer who argued cases in courts all across the North. He experienced many of the challenges that were present in the fledgling days when the NWT court system was finding its feet. This required him to sometimes argue for both the Crown and the defence in the same case. He handled, with much sympathy, the many misunderstandings caused by differences in culture. Consequently, he earned great respect in the communities.

Justice de Weerdt was always wise and ready to give sage advice on all legal matters. As well as performing his judicial duties, he was often asked for advice and opinions on many legal matters because he had a reputation for giving sound and comprehensive points of view. He was very concerned that a proper justice system designed especially for this diverse Territory be developed and he helped contribute to this in many ways. He understood that the Canadian system of justice was alien to the life of many aboriginal groups. He recognized that they were moving inordinately towards a western 20th-century lifestyle which encompasses the federal justice system.

He always made an effort to explain and justify the workings of this justice system to the aboriginal people of the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Tribute To Hon. Justice Mark De Weerdt On Retirement
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Ootes.

Tribute To Hon. Justice Mark De Weerdt On Retirement
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. He advocated for federally-funded legal aid, which was established in 1970. He believed in freedom of the press and coached reporters in how to give unbiased and accurate reports of court hearings. He believed in the flexibility of sentencing, including using sentencing circles.

Even though Justice de Weerdt would be justified in taking a well-deserved retirement, he is leaving us for yet another career; Senior Judge of the Supreme Court of British Columbia. We wish him all the best and say thank you for all the help, support and good counsel he has provided over his long career in the Northwest Territories.

--- Applause

Tribute To Hon. Justice Mark De Weerdt On Retirement
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Absence From The House
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to advise the other Members of the Assembly that I won't be in the Assembly tomorrow. I am returning to Hay River to attend the graduation at the Diamond Jenness Secondary School. I feel it is very important to honour grade 12 graduates and I regret to miss the House, but that is the reason for my absence tomorrow. Thank you.

Absence From The House
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. O'Brien.

Absence From The House
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to advise the House that I will be absent from the House tomorrow. I will be attending the high school graduation of the students of Baker Lake. Thank you.

Absence From The House
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 215-13(3): Rates Of Pay For Student Summer Employment
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Ootes on May 14th regarding rates of pay for student summer employment.

The GNWT is only able to institute a new student summer wage rate through the collective bargaining process with the union. As I mentioned the other day, we did, in fact, put forth a proposal for new student rates with the union in our most recent round of collective bargaining. However, agreement on this issue was not reached.

The GNWT does not have a specific student hiring program. Students access jobs through the casual employment program. Although there is no centralized database regarding the number of potential student job opportunities, the Personnel Secretariat has informed us that approximately 72 students have been hired in headquarters as of May 14, 1996. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 215-13(3): Rates Of Pay For Student Summer Employment
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Arlooktoo.

Further Return To Question 80-13(3): Transfer Of Staff Housing To The Nwt Housing Corporation
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Picco on March 27th, regarding the transfer of staff housing to the NWT Housing Corporation.

In June 1995, PW&S transferred the administration of the staff housing inventory, including lease administration for leased units and for unit allocations, to the Housing Corporation. On April 1, 1996, the NWT Housing Corporation assumed maintenance responsibilities which will be carried out in most cases by local housing organizations. In some communities, the maintenance function will be contracted out.

The Member is correct in saying that most LHOs will now manage these properties. However, the Financial Management Board Secretariat retains the policy and program approval responsibilities over the GNWT's staff housing program. In effect, the corporation and the LHOs are acting as a contractor to the FMBS, to deliver staff housing based upon FMBS's guidelines and policies. Therefore, the budget for this program will be kept separate from the social housing budget, and the by-laws and guidelines governing social housing program delivery will not apply to staff housing.

Further Return To Question 80-13(3): Transfer Of Staff Housing To The Nwt Housing Corporation
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mrs. Thompson.

Return To Question 194-13(3): GNWT Position On Transfers Of Program And Facilities Of Municipalities
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mrs. Groenewegen on May 8, 1996, on the GNWT position on transfers of program and facilities to municipalities.

The Member is correct in her statement that, under the community transfer process, the government agreed to work with municipal councils, band councils, community corporations and Metis locals in whatever way the community decided it wanted to approach transfers.

Under the community empowerment initiative, we will be talking to communities about how they might decide the kind of governing structure which best suits their particular and unique needs.

The government prefers to deal with a single community governing or administrative organization which is accountable to all residents of the community. In Nunavut communities, this will, in all probability, be the municipal government.

In the West, community governance is a little more complicated. It is the community residents, not the central government, that must decide how the community can best be served. If it is a community's wish that the government enter into transfer arrangements directly with a community council, band council, community corporation or Metis local; the government will consider ways to do so. It will be the challenge of community residents and their governing organizations to develop community consensus on these matters. The government can then respond. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have another one.