Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
Debates of May 21st, 1996
Topics
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion, Mr. Erasmus.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
What is the success rate of the people who have gone through the program? How many of them are still sober?
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
I don't have those statistics. From the individuals who have gone through the program, 97 per cent completed the program; three per cent dropped out, for one reason or another. With regard to the other part of this program, follow-up, we are working out a program with the federal government to look at revenues to deal with that aspect of it. Right now, the alcohol and drug programs and counsellors we have in the North are not qualified to deal with people who do come out of these programs.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion, Mr. Erasmus.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Is the program full every time it's run?
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Yes, it has been. There's 250 people on a waiting list. All events have been booked. If people try to get in at the last minute, if someone is referred to the program ... If there's someone who cannot make it, there are people to fill those beds.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion, Mr. Erasmus.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Mr. Chairman, how much money are we talking about if this program was to be funded to the same level as the other treatment centres?
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
With regard to the program and the number of clients, it is in the range of $750,000.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
To the motion. Mr. O'Brien.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For the most part, I would support the motion. I have some concern with the amount of dollars we'd have to commit to this program. Generally, we've talked about empowerment.
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Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Can we have order. A Member is speaking to the motion. I would like to remind everyone to respect others while dealing with an important motion such as the motion from the honourable Mr. Krutko. Mr. O'Brien.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We've talked about empowerment for the communities and this is where it starts; aboriginals looking after aboriginals. I've indicated I have some concern with the level of funding. It states in the motion that they are asking that we enter into negotiations with the various parties. There's no guarantee that funding will be found. At least this is a start. On that basis, I can support Mr. Krutko's motion. Thank you.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion, Mrs. Groenewegen.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
This is the last thing I will say. We are asking where the money is going to come from. Where's the money coming from now for $300 per day to Bosco Homes; $100 per day for a troubled child in a foster home; $200 per day for Mitchener Centre for mentally handicapped people who could be home, who have mild disabilities; $6,500 per month at Mitchener Centre, with 27 NWT residents there, that's over $2 million per year to the Mitchener Centre. Where does the money come from now? Thank you.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Erasmus.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The best thing for us to get some results in the future ... Perhaps this is an area where we should make an investment. There's 250 people on a waiting list. There's certainly a demand. We should find a way to increase the money in the area of alcohol and drug abuse. Thank you.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
To the motion.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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An Hon. Member
Question.
Committee Motion 6-13(3): Core Funding To The Tl'oondih Healing Society, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Question has been called. All those in favour of the motion, please signify. All those against the motion, please signify. The motion is carried.
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