Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In some instances, the communities have the funds and others the funding is held at a regional level. It depends on which aboriginal group and how they decide to disburse their funding. We don't have the specifics or details regarding which community has what, or which region has what. That information is not available at this time but I would be willing to provide it to the Members. Thank you.
Debates of May 21st, 1996
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Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister said that some communities had indicated they would be willing to pay a per diem. Are there a lot of communities who are willing to do this, or only a few? Can we get some indication regarding the numbers he's speaking of?
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I said this was a preliminary discussion and some communities had said they'd be willing to look at it. At this time we don't have anything concrete. An initial discussion has taken place. Thank you.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total department. Mr. Steen.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is with regard to all types of grants and contributions.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Does the committee agree to go back to grants and contributions as it relates to the question asked by honourable Mr. Steen? Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question is with regard to grants. Has the government a policy which allows people who receive these grants to make a profit? I'm referring specifically to what I've read with regard to the privatization of the Trail Cross Centre. I assume these people would be receiving grants. I also presume the unit which was being used by the Gwich'in received some form
of grants. I wonder if these types of businesses are allowed to make a profit off of the grants that they receive.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, generally speaking, with respect to grants and contributions, they are not-for-profit organizations. There wouldn't be a profit component to it per se, as far as what the honourable Member is speaking about; as far as something like a Trail Cross where there would be a privatization initiative, that would be through a contract by the local hospital or health board. In which case, we would fund them and they would contract out that service. In that respect, if it was a privatized industry, of course there would be some profit factor involved in their pricing, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen.
Committee Motion 7-13(3): Priority Hospital Facilities In Inuvik And Iqaluit, Carried
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, am I to understand, then, that they are allowed to make a profit off of social services in some form?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, if it was a private sector company, for some contracts, yes, there would be a profit factor in their pricing. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. On the grants and contributions, Mr. Steen. Then we have Jane. Mrs. Groenewegen. Sorry. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would the Minister clarify for me, then, comparing the Gwich'in centre healing society facility to what the government has in Inuvik at the present time, would one versus the other be allowed to show a profit?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, both Delta House and the Tl'oondih Healing Camp are operated by non-profit societies so there wouldn't be a profit factor per se in the funding contributions provided to them. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To grants and contributions. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. But you're suggesting that the Trail Cross facility would be allowed to show a profit if privatized?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, it would depend on what the proponent that was awarded the contract was. If it was a non-profit society, you can call it what you will, we wouldn't say it was a profit but there would certainly be the possibility of return to them that they could use to offset some of the development costs, some of their overhead. If it was a private, for profit company, that
would be one of the factors of their pricing, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.