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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, there have not been any reviews done of the community justice specialist and the overall community justice system we have now. That's one of the things that we're looking at in this report that we're going to be providing, hopefully in June. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

In this report that we will be looking at in June, I would gather from your statement, Mr. Minister, that in reality we are looking at having some type of review on the community justice program as it is now and the specialists that we have in place in the communities. Is that correct?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, it's more of a review of what we've done to date or the lack of what we've done to date, depending on how you want to perceive it as far as community justice programming goes. It will be trying to outline the direction in which we're trying to head in future years, to establish or make this program more successful in trying to keep more people in our communities. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

So this will be an internal review, I would assume. Will this internal review be made available to the Members of this House?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, through the Social Programs committee, I would think it would be available to all Members. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. The honourable Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one question for the Minister. Does the Minister have any idea how many people are currently incarcerated for non-payment of fines or very minor crimes?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. No, I don't have that information. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Would the Minister be able to get that information, especially to look at issues like community justice and diverting people out of the system? If we have any numbers at all of people in jail for non-payment of fines, can we afford to run a debtors' prison? Are there more constructive ways to make people pay their debt to society? Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Yes, Mr. Chairman, we'll try to get that information for the Member. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

I have the honourable Member for Yellowknife North, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to indicate that my comment after my questioning last time

about the information that the Minister had provided, I know it didn't come from him, it came from his staff. I didn't quite have the information I wanted, so I wanted to make it clear that I was thanking him for that new information.

If the department is not willing to look at electronic monitoring, how does the Minister purport to ease the overcrowding in our correctional centres?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I think through the community justice initiative we're trying to establish and create diversional alternatives for individuals, instead of having to send them to our existing correctional facilities and trying to focus more on restorative types of programming by keeping them in the communities and having them work with community groups. It's not just so much as trying to take some of the pressure off the existing system, but not to add to it. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I saw in the paper that a very authoritative person was quoted as saying that people are stacked like cordwood in the correctional centres. How long is this going to take to be effective?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Ng.