Thank you, Madam Chair. Could the Minister indicate to us what the prices are for these lots and how much this government sees it being able to recover from the people who are going to be using these lots?
Debates of May 24th, 1996
This is page numbers 619 - 646 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Chair. I will refer this question to Penny Ballantyne.
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Ballantyne
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair the hamlet of Rankin Inlet leases these lots currently to residents. The hamlet itself sets the lease price for the units. The department will be recovering $1,000 per lot from the hamlet for these lots. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Madam Chair, could you give the committee an idea how much that would add to in total? Madam Chair, I am not familiar with exactly how many lots we are talking about here, but $1,000 a lot doesn't seem like very much in relation to what we are paying for the development. I am trying to get an idea of how much we are looking at that would be recoverable by this government.
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Ballantyne
Thank you, Madam Chair. The department is in the process of reviewing its land development policy with communities. A land reform discussion paper has been circulated to all communities and the department will be consulting with all hamlet and other councils with respect to how we can recover more of the development costs of land. As Members are aware, development costs are quite high in many of the communities and, historically, the amounts recovered through leases have not been sufficient to cover the full cost of development of the land. What we are talking to communities about is what is a fair way of recovering the total cost of the development of those lots. For the time being, the communities do have the authority to set the lease prices. The department requires from Rankin Inlet, a minimum of $1,000 per developed lot for now. We are expecting that will change after the consultation process is complete and a new land development policy is brought forward for approval. Thank you.
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Madam Chair, I believe in my communities the government policy is to recover the total price of the lot from the Housing Corporation. In the past, I believe there was a rate recoverable from private home owners and new developments. There was also what was considered the economic price of the lot that was recoverable from the Housing Corporation. I wonder if this is the same policy in Rankin Inlet.
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Ballantyne
Thank you, Madam Chair. The same policy applies to all of the communities. The difference is in how much MACA recovers from the community. In the case of Rankin Inlet, because these lots have piped services, it costs more to develop them. Therefore, the department requires a higher payment from the municipality for these particular lots.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Madam Chair, is the witness suggesting that the Housing Corporation would pay the economic rate for those lots?
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Ballantyne
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, when people in communities get houses from the Housing Corporation, they pay the residential lease price in communities where they are leasing the lots. So right now, in most communities, those people are paying $250 a year. Thank you.
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Madam Chair, my question was what would the Housing Corporation pay for those lots.
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Ballantyne
Thank you, Madam Chair. The Housing Corporation does not pay for those lots. Those lots are leased by the residents. Is the Member referring to lots that were purchased in the past by the Housing Corporation for rental housing, because for private home owners, the home owners themselves get their lots from the municipality? Thank you.
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, in my communities, I understand that if anybody hired goes through the Housing Corporation to obtain a house under the home access program, they pay the economic rate for that lot. That could be anything from $250 to whatever it costs the government to develop that lot. Now I understand from the witness that this is not the case in Rankin Inlet.
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Chair. I will refer this to Mrs. Ballantyne.