Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Krutko.
Debates of Jan. 22nd, 1997
Topics
Further Return To Question 86-13(4): Possible Alternatives To Closure Of Delta House
Question 86-13(4): Possible Alternatives To Closure Of Delta House
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank my colleague from Inuvik for jumping on the band wagon. I believe I have made the same argument for a year now, and nothing has happened with my program, the Tl'oondih Healing Centre. My question to the Minister of Social Services, Kelvin Ng, I hope you have a good new year. 96 was fun, maybe 97 will get better. My question is, and the question asked by Mr. Roland, in regards to the services that will be available to its residents of the Inuvik region, you mentioned the Yellowknife Centre in regards to Northern Addiction Services, and you mentioned the Hay River Reserve, but I do not believe I heard anything on the Tl'oondih Healing Centre that we have in Fort McPherson, which is in the region. Do you have any plans for that facility to be used to carry out this treatment?
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.
Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it would be up to the referral process that is being established and, of course, the client who would want the treatment to determine and work on what facility and what programs that would best suit their needs, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Supplementary To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question was, do you have any plans to use that facility in regards to the treatment of alcohol and drug care? My question was, are you going to use that facility in the upcoming months and years to come as a treatment facility?
Supplementary To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated, it would be up to the regional referral team that would be put in place. As I will be indicating, some of the alcohol and drug referral reforms and the alcohol and drug reforms which we will get into a bit more detail once the departmental budget comes forward, what we are anticipating and proposing is that some of the referral dollars be shifted to the regional level. So, there will be more regional and local input into the referral so that would give people in the regions the opportunity to best assess where the needs are in talking with their clients who they would be dealing with. I would not totally rule it out, Mr. Speaker, but it would not be in my control as the Minister, to direct what facility to send clients to, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Supplementary To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just with regards to your answer, has your department decided who is going to refer these individuals to recognize the Tl'oondih Healing Centre as a designated facility to be used by this government? Since it is government resources that will be spent by the referral people.
Supplementary To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, once again, I think a lot of that input would have to come from the discussions in establishing the referral process and refining the referral system that we are anticipating putting in place by April 1, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Supplementary To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you. Mr. Speaker, my final supplementary is that the whole idea of institutionalizing people, either in treatment or jail, is a costly economic opportunity to the south of the Northwest Territories. With all the correctional facilities in the south in regards to the Young Offender's Facilities, the YCI in Yellowknife and also the treatment facilities being established in the south end of the Mackenzie Valley, maybe your department should also look at economic opportunities that are being lost in the Inuvik Region, especially in relation to institutionalizing people using social dollars in when there are facilities we did consider which have been turned down, in regards to the Lancap, Aklavik, and now Delta House. Maybe you can get your department to consider looking at the economic opportunities that are being lost in my region, and also in the Inuvik region, because of these decisions made by your department. Could you seriously look at economic loss to my region because of this?
Supplementary To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will take a look at the issue that the honourable Member has brought forward, and report back to him. Thank you.
Return To Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug
Question 87-13(4): Use Of Tl'oondih Healing Centre For Alcohol And Drug Treatment
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger.
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Finance and Division. The government has put forward its timely response to Footprints 2. My understanding is that the federal government and NTI have yet to respond. My question to the Minister is, as we try to enter negotiations in terms of formula funding arrangements and the structure of the government, how can we do that, if in fact the three parties at the table have not responded to a key document?
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.
Return To Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you, my honourable colleague. I think that is the issue and the dilemma that is facing us right now. We, in fact, took the time to respond in an orderly and timely way to Footprints in the Snow 2, to the basic structure that they are suggesting. We gave what we believe are some constructive alternatives and some constructive criticism on the issue. However, I think it is important to point out, we are only one party at the table. The decision on the basic framework for a Nunavut government, hopefully, will be made through consensus of the three parties. NTI, which has got a role because of the Nunavut Act, the federal government, of course, because its primary role is to rule, particularly on the fiscal side, and ourselves. So we are pushing very hard. The Premier is, the Division Committee is, and the Nunavut Caucus is, to try to accelerate the response from the two other parties so that consensus can be reached on the kind of basic framework for a new Nunavut government, that is affordable and practical. Thank you.
Return To Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The two new territories, east and west, are like siamese twins in this operation, and we are joined at the pocket book. I am concerned, as we go through the delicate process of separating, that we need this kind of information. We have less than 800 days. Are there ways that the Minister can see to, in fact, pursue this with even more vigour and enthusiasm
than he has to date? To press upon the other two major players that they have an obligation to act with some alacrity and speed?
Supplementary To Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd.
Further Return To Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to assure my honourable colleague that I think steps are in place right now by all parties, on this side of the table, anyway, to try to accelerate a comprehensive and full response from the federal government. We are hoping that we will get a comprehensive response. One of the charges levelled against us in the previous report was our inability to respond in a timely and effective manner. It took us almost 12 months to do that. One of the concerns now being expressed by some, is that we have responded in a timely and effective manner, but we do not like what you have said. I think that it is equally important to find out what the other two parties feel before an appropriate consensus is reached, as to what form of government we require. We can then work towards costing it, both east and west, and move onward to the negotiations which, hopefully, will get started sometime time in March with the federal government. There is a concerted effort on our part to explain the urgent need for a response to Footprints in the Snow 2, from the two other parties, and that once these responses are provided, we can sit down, collectively, and try to reach a consensus on the core framework of the new Nunavut government. Assuming consensus can be reached, it would provide us with the vehicle and the tool to move forward with our negotiations on the form of financing and, as I said yesterday, more importantly, the incremental costs. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal
Question 88-13(4): Responses To Footprints 2 From Nti And The Federal Government
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.