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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I would beg to differ with the honourable Member in that we are providing adequate programs in child protection measures. It is unfortunate that we have such a high incidence of child abuse. It is something that in the long term that prevention, we have to do by making communities well overall in providing them with economic opportunities, healing types of programs that are community based or community initiated are all part of the overall longer term process of trying to deal with this issue of child abuse, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. My next question deals with the whole idea of motions that are passed in committee of the whole, petitions tabled in this House by a number of residents, in the hundreds, yet the concerns in relation to this department in relation to those issues in regard to the whole area of alcohol and drug programs, closure of alcohol and drug treatment programs and the whole area and aspect of community well-being. When the community supports a particular initiative to encourage the healing process in communities and also the treatment effects in communities in regard to the whole area of physical abuse, sexual abuse, mental abuse, you name it, communities have those areas that they have to deal with in order to be well. Yet it seems like it is an ongoing process of battling the bureaucracy to ensure that those activities are either carried out or delivered in those communities sufficiently. It is either you do not have enough resources to carry those out or basically it is not a priority for that particular government. So I would like to ask the Minister what has he done in relation to these petitions, motions tabled in this House and also questions asked by Members in this House? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we have tried to support community empowerment by devolving the responsibilities and the funding to the regional and community level to have them set their own priorities as I have said in the past in respect to what they think would be the best and most suitable programs to operate in their areas and of course with that, what communities and what facilities in that area they would support. I do want to clarify we have not withdrawn accessibility to alcohol and drug treatment programs as the Member may have alluded to. We still provide alcohol and drug treatment, residential in-house treatment to residents that require that, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. My other question in regard to the Minister is the health of the residents of Mackenzie Delta in relation to the water concern in Fort McPherson which I raised in this House and debated for a number of weeks. In regard to the whole question of the health of our residents and especially when you find chemicals that are associated with cancer in the water supply of our residents in which they have to drink because they have no other option, and yet this government either does not want to deal with it or he hands it off to another department either Public Works or MACA. Yet raising it as a concern of health it seemed like your department was either trying to avoid dealing with this matter or totally washing your hands of the whole question of the cancer causing chemicals that were in the water system when it was analyzed in Fort McPherson. I would like to ask the Minister why was that?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, those are pretty serious allegations. If it were true that it was analyzed or evaluated that there were cancer causing agents or chemicals in contamination of the water supply then we would be obligated, or any regulatory or water agency would be obligated to report that and to have that corrected as soon as possible, Madam Chair. I cannot speak on the specifics that the honourable Member is mentioning, I do not have those results that he refers to. If he has them or if the community has them, certainly if I were aware of them or any Cabinet Member that may be responsible or public health official; then we would act on that immediately, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Final question, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chair. In regard to the whole idea of allegations or what not being made, the studies that I am talking about were done by the Department of Public Works and there is a public document that clearly states in the report that there were cancer causing components in certain segments of the water that were tested. So for the Minister to say that he did not do anything about it regarding taking his job seriously and with my concerns as the Member for Mackenzie Delta, it seems like everything that has happened in relation to Mackenzie Delta was either slashed, cut or burned by this particular Minister and his department from the Department of Justice to the closure of the Knute Lang Camp which was identified by the previous Minister for Justice in regard to a facility in behalf of the Department of Justice, the closure of the Tl'oondih Healing Program, Delta House and also the removal of certain individuals in regard to the health care area especially in the area of mental health. I would like to ask exactly why is it that all these areas that were originally running were in place, were on the books before this Minister took this portfolio and all of a sudden they all got slashed. This boggles my mind and I would like to know why?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, unfortunately as we know all government underwent changes as a result of fiscal restraints that took place. Some things that may have been planned could not be carried out because of a difficult fiscal environment when we took office. Some programs could not continue to be funded for whatever reasons and unfortunately, as I indicated in my opening comments we have had to make decisions as a government and as a minister. Unfortunately not all those decisions are popular. We know that they have impacted individuals and organizations. Ideally if we did not have to do that, we would not, but unfortunately we have had to make those decisions, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you Mr. Ng. Next I have on the list Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Chair. Good evening it has been a long day. I would like to begin by thanking the Minister and his staff, anytime I have had requests to the Minister on various justice or health issues he has always been forthcoming and responsive when the House is not sitting and I thank him for that.

My first question concerns the Baffin Correctional Centre. There have been a couple of breakouts from the Baffin Correctional Centre over the last year. Recently there were three more inmates who broke out of the Baffin Correctional Centre. Last spring myself and the Minister had an opportunity to tour the centre and were quite disturbed to find out about marijuana and hash being dropped through windows from the ground and up into the correctional centre that inmates were able to get and other concerns. I wonder, has the Minister's department done anything to prevent these outbreaks and other episodes other than the few dollars we put into the capital budget for upgrades at that facility? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we have done extensive renovations within the Baffin Correctional Centre. I do not have all the details of what changes have taken place or are in the process of taking place. It is to deal primarily with the break outs and trying to improve the security of that facility. But as you know, anytime people are incarcerated and there are opportunities for them to be unlawfully at large, for various reasons it may not necessarily be while they are within the facility, they may be outside on a work release or temporary release and not return when they are supposed to as well and be unlawfully at large as well in those circumstances, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would accept that the Minister does not have the full detail, but I would take that at face value that indeed the work has progressed. I have seen workers over there, and that indeed the work will hopefully prevent more inmates from escaping as it were.

My second question Madam Chair, has the Minister settled the disagreement about the appointment of the Supreme Court judge from Nunavut? It was a question I asked about a year ago that there was a vacancy on the judgeship chair, and tried to get a Supreme Court judge posted to Nunavut. I wonder is the Minister could updated us on that situation.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chair, and a very timely question I may add in that I just recently had some correspondence on that. The federal minister has committed to filling that position of a Supreme Court judge based in Nunavut. They are in the process of going through their recommendation process through their advisory committee that makes a recommendation to the federal minister. Our government has made the commitment to provide some of the administrative support necessary which allows the federal minister to go ahead and start the process of naming a potential candidate for that position, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am very pleased to hear that. After asking so many questions in this House over the past two years, I believe one member stated about 195. But at my count I think I was at 1,057. Finally I have a good answer.

I would like to follow up on another question, a new question. The Department and the Minister have come in for much criticism over the past few months. Has the Minister reviewed the operations of the Department of Health in light of this information and what corrective action, if any, has the Minister taken. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

I do not know what the member is referring to Madam Chair. Maybe if he could elaborate. I do not want criticism of the Department of Health. It is a well run department. Thank you.