This is page numbers 23 - 84 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Further Return To Question 17-13(5): Timing Of Keewatin Resupply
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have received information from the hamlet of Arviat of their concerns about the location. I spoke, yesterday, to Mr. Flynn, the senior administrative officer in that community. I also spoke with the mayor, my long time friend, Peter Kay, who was in Whale Cove at meetings, and we agreed there was enough items on the table that would warrant meetings and discussion. I will be meeting with him on Monday in Igloolik where he will be attending the NTI Meeting. On Wednesday, I will meet the hamlet council and the deputy mayor. Most of the concerns from that community, as I understand it, have to do with the location of the pipelines and also the service or perceived lowering of service in the dry cargo area. I believe strongly we will be able to reassure the community that we will do all we can and will ensure there are no environmental damages. We will also ensure they receive good and adequate dry cargo services as all other northern communities do. That is the reason why I am fully confident that the consultations going on now will be completed.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Ms. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 17-13(5): Timing Of Keewatin Resupply
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question was more in relation to why the Minister speculated if there was a one year delay, the project would not go ahead. However, my final supplementary question is, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Arlooktoo indicated yesterday that extensive consultation was undertaken with the private sector specifically, the president of NTCL. Could the Minister please share with the House, the results of that consultation and how that came to bear on the direction decided by the Department of Public Works and Services? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 17-13(5): Timing Of Keewatin Resupply
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Arlooktoo. Two questions.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First on the one year delay what I indicated yesterday and I think it is clear now. A one year delay may not be a good idea because in a year the Legislative Assembly here, all the decision-makers in Nunavut and all the decision makers in the west will be right in the middle of trying to deal with all the complicated issues of division. I believe there will be very little room at the time to deal with other important issues such as this. There is enough evidence now that this is a good move. It is a money making move to the tune of $100 million over 20 years. We need to act on it now.

On the issue of consultation. The president of NTCL, Mr. Clement was contacted on several occasions. There was correspondence between the department and NTCL but understandably, I believe that NTCL being forced into a competitive process rather than being the carrier of choice or being guaranteed a contract each year is not so comfortable with the idea. We have tried to reassure them that the process will be fair, it will be open and if you look at it logically, the company has as good a chance or a better chance than any other.

Further Return To Question 17-13(5): Timing Of Keewatin Resupply
Question 17-13(5): Timing Of Keewatin Resupply
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Ningark.

Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Public Works and Services. Mr. Speaker, the conventional kind of method for delivering fuel in the Keewatin region provides jobs for people of that area and provides business opportunity for the company owned by people of Nunavut area. Mr. Speaker, the Minister has indicated this initiative provides a saving to the government and to the people of that area. Of course, we know that the construction of the pipeline is going to cost money. My question is, how long will it take, Mr. Speaker, for the people of that area and the government to see realized savings of the construction of a pipeline in the Keewatin area? Thank you.

Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe once the project goes into effect, the savings realized will be immediate and they will be significant. All indications and conservative estimates we have now, say the transportation cost of fuel will be about one quarter of what they are now. The savings realized will be significant and will be more once the pipelines are paid for in five years time.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ningark.

Supplementary To Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we just have recovered from the deficit elimination. I would caution the government, myself, the amount of money we spend, the expenditure. Mr. Speaker, my supplementary question to the Minister is, how many jobs will be realized from the construction of the pipeline and at this point in time, how many jobs are required to manage the conventional method of delivering fuel to the Keewatin area? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have an accurate number of jobs that will be realized from these four infrastructure projects that are worth several millions of dollars in total in the four communities. I certainly can share that information with the Member once we complete the requests for proposals and the proposals, but these are incremental projects and jobs to what is planned. I just wanted to comment on the conventional methods of delivering fuel. Right now the conventional method in Keewatin is by tug and barge. As technologies get better and as we move forward we realize now that it is cheaper and more efficient to go through the offshore tanker route very much in the same way that we deliver goods before we used the bombardiers and the biplanes, et cetera. We have moved on and I see that in a similar light. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ningark.

Supplementary To Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to the same honourable Minister. Obviously we have not done any research in the area. Mr. Speaker, will the Minister delay the project until such time that full research is done by the government?

Supplementary To Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The answer is no. As I said before the government, the department and myself feel that we have more than enough information and evidence that there will be significant savings to the Government of the Northwest Territories, the government of Nunavut and the people of the Keewatin especially. This project has to and will go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 18-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Savings
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Steen.

Question 19-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Pipelines
Item 6: Oral Questions

October 21st, 1997

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to Mr. Arlooktoo, Minister of Public Works and Services. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister what is the estimated completion date of the fuel delivery pipelines in the Keewatin?

Question 19-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Pipelines
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Arlooktoo.

Return To Question 19-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Pipelines
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it is before the sealift delivery season in 1999.

Return To Question 19-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Pipelines
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Steen.

Supplementary To Question 19-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Pipelines
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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the Minister stated in his statement on the 16th of October, the government will lease back the pipeline for a five-year period at which point it will be owned outright by the Nunavut government. Mr. Speaker, sealift date of 1999 is five months after Nunavut date. Why would this government continue to pay?

Supplementary To Question 19-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Pipelines
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

Further Return To Question 19-13(5): Keewatin Resupply Pipelines
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the government responsible for the entire Northwest Territories, it is important to remember we are still dealing with the whole of the Northwest Territories. This is one area we have been working on for a long time, the improvement of sealift, the improvement of the fuel delivery in the entire eastern Arctic. We recently completed the signing of a large contract with NTCL for the eastern Arctic for last year and this is part of the ongoing improvements we are making to how we deliver fuel in the eastern Arctic.