This is page numbers 23 - 84 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We said two years ago, the most important issue to the Northwest

Territories is the bread and butter issues, jobs. In order for us to create that atmosphere, create the proper ability for our private sector to invest and to attract investment; we had to create the right atmosphere and that was balancing our budget. Making the Northwest Territories look like an attractive place to invest. We have also, in doing that accomplished many other things. We were also able to amalgamate the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development that is pretty well through the amalgamation process and ready now to go into the communities and work with the communities like I had just previously told Mr. Krutko, the MLA for Mackenzie Delta. We go out to the community, economic or community development workshops, especially level two and three communities. So, we can work with those communities to develop the renewable resources.

We are also very active in working to ensure that the Northwest Territories benefits from the mineral exploration that is happening, the diamond mines. There is no way that this government will lay down and allow diamonds to fly over and our resources to leave this country without us benefiting.

Like Mr. Todd says, he will tax them and tax them until we do get their attention, but we will get their attention and benefit as northerners from that resource. We do have great development in the Sahtu region, in the Liard area, the potential for not only logging but for oil and gas. I just came back from the Beaufort area, there is great potential up there as well. What we have to do and are doing, is moving ahead on some initiatives to enable us to have the tools ourselves in order to move ahead, and those initiatives are the bill that Mr. Todd is coming forward with pretty soon, An Amendment to the Financial Administration Act. Also, the new partnership with the private sector, where we can hopefully develop a vehicle in partnership with the private sector so we can build more infrastructure, whether it be highways, schools, hospitals or whatever, in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Second question, Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, my second question is on BHP. I had a opportunity, as well as other Members to receive a briefing from BHP on their present employment strategies and job opportunities and business opportunities.

To say the least, I was a bit discouraged to hear that they have a policy in place, whereby the first benefits and the first priority for job creation, opportunities and business opportunities is for people in the immediate area of the diamond mine. Regardless of the socio-economic agreement they have with the government, that particular agreement takes priority over the government's.

That leaves people outside of the particular area with not much hope of getting employed at the diamond mine. I am aware at this point in time that in talking with the people that work, there is nothing but unskilled labour opportunities period. There are no other opportunities. I am wondering what steps this government is prepared to take? I understand that Mr. Morin just said that he is prepared to tax, tax, tax, these guys; but I guess I should ask the question out loud is, what steps is this government prepared to take to encourage that the diamond mine be more cooperative in addressing job opportunities and business opportunities for all northerners, not just those in the Yellowknife area?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. We have been working with BHP and on the valuation side of the equation of this mine. It seems that we may be able to come to some agreements. BHP has done a reasonable job of hiring northerners on the construction end of it. It is a major project, and I would not worry one bit about whether or not they are through community agreements that they are going to hire the Dogrib Nation first, and Treaty 8 together, their peoples first, then it moves out from there. We are able for the first time in history of this government, and the mining industry of the Northwest Territories, to get a socio-economic agreement that also, Hay River, Fort Smith, Fort Simpson, Norman Wells, Inuvik, Cambridge Bay will be pick up points, Coppermine, for employment at that mine. That will mean the mining will pick up employees at those communities and fly them back. I believe we are talking about 800 people in total. I believe there is enough work out there to employ people who want to work, that are available for work, from all those regions including the Beaufort. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Third question, Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Madam Chair, I am aware that BHP has pick ups in Inuvik, but what my question is, how do we encourage them to hire more than just unskilled labour? Surely they must have people in the territories. I know there are people in my region who are willing and have applied and have heard no response from BHP. They are skilled labourers.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. Arctic College students, the Department of Education, is working with BHP to develop training initiatives so that our people can be employed. There is no way, if you have people available and trained in the Northwest Territories go to work. Those are the people that should be hired from those communities. I do not have any specific cases that I can refer to.

The Department of Education is going to have a representative at the mine, on a training committee and possibly we have talked to the Minister of Education and looked at making sure that we work in partnership with BHP to develop training initiatives and strategies on how to make sure northerners are hired. So far, that work, I understand, from the Minister, is going quite well.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, for that concise and brief answer, Mr. Morin. Mr. Steen, your fourth question.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I understand from the Premier that this government is prepared to enter into a large scale partnership with private enterprise for construction for infrastructure for facilities in all regions on an equal basis including construction of schools, hospitals, roads, et cetera.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. We are working right now on public/private partnership policy for the government. We are looking at what they have done in other jurisdictions so that we can include it, so that everyone knows that dollars are scarce in 1997, and they may be more scarce further. Hopefully by November 15, 1997, we will have that policy done so we can move ahead and create opportunities for northerners. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. I just wish to clarify that I was not being factious before, since a Member requested that we keep the questions down to one minute. I was timing them and actually your previous answer was over two minutes. If we can keep the Members' questions to around a minute and the Ministers' responses to about two, I think we will make good progress. Mr. Steen, your fifth question.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair, point of order. I did not agree to the suggestion by the Member that we should get down to one minute because it would have been unfair that some Members had spoken for ten minutes during their preempt and now you are suggesting that I am going to be at one minute. I disagree with that.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. The remark by the other Member was just a suggestion to facilitate that all Members' participation in this questioning of this particular Minister, just looking at the sheet, I am not intending of gypping you of any of your time, but there are quite a number of Members who have not asked questions yet. Mr. Steen, your fifth question.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will keep my questions short. Madam Chair, if the Premier agrees that no future contracts applicable to Nunavut will be entered into by this government without the express written consent of the Interim Commissioner, including contracts such as the Keewatin Fuel Delivery Pipeline?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. At this time the government is working on protocol agreements with the Interim Commissioner on the whole contract initiative and we are close to finalizing that. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Your sixth question, Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am going to have to wait until they get to the Hansard for that response. My next question is in regard to Interim Regional Government Funding. I understand, Madam Chair, there has been a request for the Interim Regional Government Funding for Inuvik, and I am wondering what the Premier's position is on this particular request?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am not aware of any Interim Regional Government Funding request out of Inuvik. We do not have any money in our budget for regional governments or interim regional governments.

At the present time, through aboriginal Affairs, I know that the federal government is negotiating with Inuvialuit/Beaufort region on regional government issues. We are also dealing with the federal government with an MOU to make sure that the federal government is responsible for any transitional incremental costs to deal with self-government. We have not finished those negotiations as of yet, but we will not move ahead on self-government until we get a commitment from the federal government that they are going to pay. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Your seventh question, Mr. Steen.