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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Chairman. One of the requirements for negotiated contracts is that only Cabinet has the authority to approve negotiated contracts.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Directorate?

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My other questions will be in the area of user say/user pay. I would like to know what the impact of user say/user pay is. Was it measured out in the areas of health boards and education boards? I use the example of Inuvik Regional Health Board, where you have a hospital that is tied to a high temp system. Actually, just recently, they are proposing a 60 percent rate increase. That will have a real negative impact. I wonder if those effects were looked at?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister?

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Chairman, in planning for user pay/user say and preparing ourselves in other departments, boards and agencies, we did as much as possible to gather the information we needed to prepare everyone. Of course, it is not always possible to forecast price increases as the Members spoke about. In those cases, it will probably be necessary to make some adjustments to budgets.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Directorate? Mr. Roland, then we have Mr. Picco. Mr. Roland?

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Was the budget when it was transferred over or going to be transferred over to the health board, was it 100 percent of the previous year's cost?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Arlooktoo?

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Chairman, I do not have the numbers for the specific board, but overall the utilities budgets that were transferred to departments, boards and agencies included a forced savings that is a reduction of six percent overall. They would have received six percent less than what was used the year before.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland?

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again in the area of user say,/user pay, were property management dollars being transferred with the utility transfers?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Arlooktoo?

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Chairman, the property management function was a user-pay initiative and there were no reductions planned on that side.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Roland, your last question?

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I did not understand. Were there dollars transferred with the utilities transfer, I guess, when it comes to property management or was that going in a separate pot?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Arlooktoo?

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Chairman. Maybe I will try again. In the case of utilities, the power, water, et cetera, when we pass the money along to the department, board or agency that needed it, we shaved off six percent and told them, "You will have to find a way to save money in this area because this is all you are getting." Basically, that is what we did. In the area of maintenance and O and M, which is what the Member is referring to, I believe, the system is on a charge-back basis, which is we will pass the money along to them, but our maintenance staff will still do the work and we will charge them for it. It will be on an as required basis.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. For the record, we are on Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1997-98, Department of Public Works and Services directorate, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $12,245,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

I have Mr. Picco and Mr. Ootes.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, my question under this area is concerning, just going back to what Mr. Henry was asking earlier about the privatization issue that has been brought up a couple of times in the House, my question to the Minister was what policy was the government following in the privatization initiatives?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Minister.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Chairman, it was an initiative of the government early on in our mandate.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you. What policy were we following? What was the policy? Were we following the privatization policy of this government, and if so, which one?