Thank you. The time being 12 o'clock, we will recess until 1:30 p.m.
-- Recess
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. The time being 12 o'clock, we will recess until 1:30 p.m.
-- Recess
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Question 303-13(4): Funding For Day Care
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
I would like to call the House back to order. We are still on oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger.
Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. Could the Minister clarify how the 43 percent cut to the bussing budget ties into the overall budget of the South Slave Divisional Board of Education, so in fact does not apparently constitute an actual 43 percent cut overall? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when the formula was being modified, some areas within the formula increased, while others decreased. The amount of money, for instance, for inclusive schooling was increased in the formula. I believe there may have been some extra funds for early childhood programs. The amount of money that went into the formula for the South Slave Divisional Education Council for bussing was decreased. Overall, the result of the formula was to leave the amount of money that the education council would have received, just about the same, with actually a small increase had we not had to reduce our total expenditures for schools in the budget this year. It is only as a result of that overall target adjustment for this department that their monies were reduced and it was not by 48 percent. Their overall reduction, as a divisional education council, would only have been, I believe, in the range of 5 percent or so. It is still up to the education council to determine how they spend their monies within the contribution they get from this government. They could choose to spend more money on bussing, if they wanted, and increase the pupil/teacher ratio or they could choose to reduce the bussing and follow the way the formula is allocated for points. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Return To Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister indicated that if there would not have been a reduction, they would have had an increase, a slight increase. I would assume that rationale would hold true for all programs in government and all departments. If we would not have had to do budget reductions, we all would have been much better off. My question to the Minister is, just so that it is very clear, this is like a block funding situation where there is a certain amount of money given to the divisional board and it is up to them to move the money around within that budget to address the various needs? Is that, in its simplest form, what the Minister is saying?
Supplementary To Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The essence of the contributions to divisional education councils, is very much like that. Of course, the education councils must demonstrate how they intend to fulfil the mandate of this government to deliver an education program. As long as they do that, they are given a tremendous amount of flexibility to move funds around within their allocation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 304-13(4): Education Board Funding
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Mrs. Groenewegen.
Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I made it under the wire. A number of days ago, I asked a question about the $55 per cord of wood from the South Mackenzie Correctional Centre for seniors in Hay River. At the time, Minister Ng indicated that he was going to be having a meeting with some officials from his department and some officials from the Department of Renewable Resources. I was wondering if the Minister could please update the House as to the outcome of that meeting. Thank you.
Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Justice. Mr. Ng.
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Mr. Speaker, the honourable Member is correct. There has been a meeting between officials. A formal request from Justice went to RWED to request that the rates for firewood to seniors be allowed to revert to $55 and that approval, to my understanding, has now been given to allow for that sale of firewood to seniors at that rate. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Return To Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions are over. Mr. Miltenberger.
Return To Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I request unanimous consent to return to item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.
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Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Member for Thebacha is seeking unanimous consent to return to item 5. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Miltenberger.
Return To Question 305-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Wood From Correction Centre
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize in the gallery, behind me, Mr. Phillip and Mary Norwegian, long-time residents of Fort Smith that have very strong ties with the Member for Nahendeh's riding as well. Thank you.
-- Applause
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Item 7, written questions. Mr. Erasmus.
Written Question 15-13(4): Information On Grievances
Item 7: Written Questions
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a written question for the Minister of the Financial Management Board Secretariat concerning grievances. The question is, can the Minister provide the following information for grievances filed in the calendar years, 1995 and 1996? 1) Number of first level grievances; 2) Number of second level grievances; 3) Number of grievances sent to the third level; 4) Number of grievances resolved at the third level; 5) Number sent to arbitration; number of arbitration rulings in favour of the employee; number of arbitration rulings in favour of the employer. Thank you.
Written Question 15-13(4): Information On Grievances
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Written questions. Mr. Erasmus.
Written Question 16-13(4): Staff Training Participation Levels
Item 7: Written Questions
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a written question for the Minister of the Financial Management Board Secretariat concerning staff training participation levels. Can the Minister provide the following information from each government department? The total number of staff as of December 31, 1996, broken down into aboriginal staff and non-aboriginal staff; number of staff who have been involved in at least one training course in 1996; number of aboriginal staff who have participated in at least one training course in 1996; and the numbers to complete the chart below for 1996. The chart is for management - aboriginal staff and management - non-aboriginal staff; aboriginal staff/non-aboriginal staff and, for each one, to indicate how many have taken one training course, how many have taken two training courses, how many have taken three training courses, how many have taken four or more training courses? Thank you.
Written Question 16-13(4): Staff Training Participation Levels
Item 7: Written Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to opening address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. Mr. Evaloarjuk.
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on the topic of restructuring NWT libraries, I wish to table a letter I received from Jessie Nutarak, Chairperson of the Pond Inlet Community Education Council, in support of the government's initiative to extend library services to all Northwest Territories' libraries, Tabled Document No. 48-13(4). However, the Pond Inlet Community Education Council strongly objects to reducing funding to the Pond Inlet Public Library as a means to achieve this goal. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Motion 11-13(4). Mr. Erasmus.
Motion 11-13(4): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Program
Item 16: Motions
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Mr. Speaker, I make the following motion, seconded by the honourable Member for Natilikmiot. It is on the Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Program.
WHEREAS the seniors and elders across the NWT have made significant contributions to these families and communities;
AND WHEREAS we wish to support and encourage seniors to live independent lives as much as possible;
AND WHEREAS the Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Program provides assistance for seniors in the high cost of heating their homes;
AND WHEREAS the Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Program helps seniors and elders to maintain healthy lifestyles;
AND WHEREAS the majority of seniors and elders live on fixed incomes, support extended families and live in areas where the cost of living is high;
AND WHEREAS the Legislative Assembly had approved a change to this program in 1996/97 to eliminate seniors with high incomes from being eligible for the program;
AND WHEREAS the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment instituted changes to the program beyond the expectations of Members;
AND WHEREAS the majority of Members, along with the Standing Committee on Social Programs, have been encouraging the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment to maintain this program;
AND WHEREAS the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment intends to eliminate the program in the 1997/98 budget;
AND WHEREAS there is a fragmented approach to the delivery of programs and benefits for seniors, including inconsistencies in the criteria and ages for eligibility;
AND WHEREAS the social envelope departments have not completed the comprehensive review of all subsidies to seniors.
Now therefore, I move, seconded by the Member for Natilikmiot, that the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment be urged to continue the Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Program with the following changes:
- increasing the single income threshold to, at least, exceed the Statistics Canada poverty level for a single person, indexed to Yellowknife's cost of living;
- indexing qualifying incomes to the cost of living across the Northwest Territories, using Yellowknife as a base;
- including seniors who rent private housing in the eligibility criteria.
AND FURTHER that the funding necessary for this program should come from instituting a rent policy for seniors living in public housing;
AND FURTHER that the revised Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Program remain in place until the recommendations contained in the report of the comprehensive review of all programs and benefits to seniors and elders is reviewed by the Standing Committee on Social Programs and the Legislative Assembly. Thank you.
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