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Committee Motion 15-13(4): Recommendation To Remove Projects Related To The Rankin Inlet Tank Farm
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I have Mr. O'Brien to the motion.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Unfortunately, it does appear that the motion is somewhat redundant. The report was printed before the actual document, the report, was tabled in the house and that is it why it still appears here. That is the only comment at this point that I would like to make.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, are we ready for questions? All those in favour of the motion please signify in

the usual manner. Down. Opposed? The motion is defeated. Back to 10-24, building and works, Keewatin region, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just one question, how does the $820,000 relate to what was spent the previous year? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, this is $820,000, for the record. Mr. Minister.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, for 96/97, 97/98 a total of $1,620,000 was allocated for the construction of the marine terminal facilities. In this current year of 96/97, $250 thousand was reallocated from the project. This $250,000 was put back into this project 97/98 year, and so this $250,000 is part of the $820,000. We made a commitment to the hamlet of Rankin Inlet, where they are doing the projects on their own through full authority agreement, and the total amount of the agreement is $1,050,000, to do marshalling area and secure facility, and redesign the docking facilities. The $800,000 is from the current year 96/97. The $250,000 is for the 97/98 main estimate year and that is part of the $820,000. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Building and works, Keewatin region. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the Minister partly answered my question, but my question is, of the $964,000 spent last year, if this $820,000 was not spent, have we got a half finished project in the community?

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The Chair John Ningark

(Translation) Thank you very much. Mr. Minister. (Translation ends)

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the construction of this facility started this current year and it is not going to be complete until this 97/98 fiscal year. The $250,000 of the $820,000 is part of the full agreement contract that was signed with the hamlet and they require the $250,000 to complete the work. If the $250,000 is not there, it will be an incomplete job. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Keewatin region, building and works. Total region is $1,618,000. Agreed? Thank you. Total building and works, $2,728,000. Agreed? Thank you. Contributions, headquarters, total region, $100,000. Agreed? Total contribution, $100,000. Agreed. Thank you. Total activity, $2,828,000. Agreed? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

For the record we are on Bill 8, Appropriation Act, 1997/98. Transportation, activity summary, community local access roads. Page 10-26, operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance, $75,000. Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to try and put things into perspective for western Members. Coming from the Nunavut area, where the access roads are very important to our communities and our people, I will try to tell you why. One reason is that access roads facilitate hunting. A couple of honourable Members indicated that we are in a wage economy. We realize that. We in the Nunavut area consider hunting and trapping as a means of supporting your family. Many people in the communities like Pelly Bay, Gjoa Haven, and other communities I am sure, Clyde River, every community in the small regions depend entirely on hunting. In the eastern Arctic communities, we have a very high rate of unemployment. A majority of the people in the small communities make their living by carving. Many of those people make their living by hunting. I think we should try to make sure people understand what we are talking about. I think access roads also facilitate tourism and tourism, in our area, is one of the most economical means of putting things in the community. When tourists come, they stay in our hotels, where we have local people working in the hotels. Otherwise, these people would be living on social assistance. When the tourists come in, they hire guides. When the tourists come in, they buy carvings and so on. Access roads are very important to us because a tourist could utilize them by using all-terrain vehicles. Another reason the access roads are so important in our area is that they provide access to recreation. We do not have parks in our communities. We do not have many areas that we can bring the kids and family by way of vehicles. Access roads provide transportation by all-terrain vehicles.

We talk about trying to make life better for our elders, handicapped, disadvantaged people, women, children, and so on. Access roads provide the ability of access for our handicapped, elders, women, and young children who are not able to access the recreation areas other than by foot. Most of these people are not able to do that, because of their age, handicap, or they are too small. Access roads are very important in our area. I would like to ask the honourable Minister, do you have a program available to provide access roads in the communities across the territories? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the access road program is to give access, by communities, to nearby attractions. These attractions could include recreation sites, hunting areas, historical sites, local water resources, and maybe access to open water to support fishing and hunting and tourism activities. Basically, that is the type of thing that access roads are designed for. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Total operations and maintenance, $75,000. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that we extend sitting until we conclude the Transportation budget this evening. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Your motion is in order. All those in favour of the motion. Opposed. The motion is carried. We will extend sitting until Transportation is concluded. Back to the activities summary. Total operations and maintenance, $75,000. I have Mr. Enuaraq.

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I would like thank Mr. Ningark on his comment with regards to access roads. Mr. Chairman, the issue I want to talk about has to do with Clyde River. We have not gone to this particular concern of mine yet, but with regards to the access

roads, it is not only an access road where you can reach just recreational areas. For instance, in Clyde River, if you look at Patricia Bay, it is too small of an area. You cannot do any hunting around the Patricia Bay area. The people of Clyde River do their hunting around the time the ice is breaking, which is around the month of July. A lot of local hunters will use ski-doos as they do with their hunting. There has been an access road that was built in our community. We feel there is a lack of funding to build access roads for the nearby community. I would like to thank the Transportation Department for making this type of program available to the communities. In our communities, the access roads are very common and very popular. Mr. Ningark's comments were true for smaller communities, because we do use these access roads when we hunt sea mammals and other land mammals. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. (Translation ends)

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. I did not hear a question in there. I would just like to remind Members that, although you can preamble, you should round off with a question to the Minister. If you are going to make comments on this, your comments are welcome provided they are rounded off with a question to the Minister. I did not hear a question there. Unless you have a question, Mr. Enuaraq, I am going to move on to the next Member. Mr. Enuaraq.

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I did not have a question, I just wanted to support the comment that was made. Thank you. (Translation ends)

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I appreciated the heartfelt comments from my two colleagues and I think you are talking to the converted in regards to the issue of access roads. Since I must end my comment with a question to the Minister, would the Minister be greatly upset if we just voted to approve this activity and moved on?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Minister.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

By all means, Mr. Chairman.