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Committee Motion 30-13(4): Recommendation To Reinstate Funding For Local Wildlife Committees To Levels Equivalent To The 1996/97 Fiscal Year
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe that we do this and it is done by the Minister of Finance. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The point is that it seems like a lot of these loans are allocated to companies in the larger centres. There does not seem to be as much access from the smaller communities or the outlining regions versus the larger centres, say within the Fort Smith region or the Yellowknife area. Does he have a listing of where these dollars are being allocated? What percent is going to any particular region versus being spent in the larger centres.

Committee Motion 30-13(4): Recommendation To Reinstate Funding For Local Wildlife Committees To Levels Equivalent To The 1996/97 Fiscal Year
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Both the NWT Development Corporation and the Business Credit Corporation provide annual reports that are shared with Members of the Legislature. We have offered to provide more detailed reports, if Members wish, through arranging meetings directly between the Members and, for instance, the NWT Development Corporation. We have just passed a motion asking that each subsidiary, each company under the Development Corporation provide annual reports, detailing accounting of their operations to this Legislature. I think people are moving towards acquiring more information. As a general rule, you would see that in terms of contributions, it is the smaller communities that get a greater percentage of contributions, the larger centres looking at the larger loans. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Minister Kakfwi. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do not think my question was answered. I asked if they have a breakdown of funds being allocated through loans or grants to particular regions and if there is a regional breakdown on the specific amounts, so we can have a general idea of how much is going into any particular region, so we can say those funds are being accessed more from the larger centres versus the regional outlining regions.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

(microphone off) ... Business Credit Corporation annual report gives a very detailed breakdown of applications submitted and approved by communities, by regions, dollar amounts, and it is all available there. You just have to read it and go through the charts and the figures. It is available. If there are more specific details that are required, if the Member is specific we could probably help him get that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is great to look at a book that statistically tells me that in my region there was $12,000 given to my particular region in relation to those grants, yet we are talking of hundreds and millions being spent in other areas. That is the point I am trying to get at. Should there be some discretion given in regards to how that money is allocated so it is more fairly distributed?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. I believe that was a statement. Do you wish to respond, Mr. Minister?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am not certain how to respond to that. Are we suggesting that we should stop providing contributions and loans to the large centres and focus solely on the small communities and the

smaller regions? I am not certain what the suggestion is. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. I will allow Mr. Krutko one more question to clarify his question to you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do not think that is the point I was making about taking the money out of larger centres and putting it into small communities. The question I was asking is that I believe that there has to be a more equitable way of distributing funds to ensure that all regions and communities in the north have the same access as larger centres when it comes to accessing funds from these lending institutions that this government funds. Is there some insurance that all regions will be dealt with fairly in regards to the allocation of funds from these lending institutions?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Minister.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is a good suggestion. People have to apply for these grants and contributions and loans. In large part we respond to applications. We are also moving to increase the number of community futures programs. There is one set up in Inuvik that serves that particular region. We are looking at setting up more of these to better serve the small communities in those areas that are not being currently served. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. I now recognize Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Following up on comments made by Mr. Krutko, are there any outstanding loans from any of the funding agencies of the department, the Business Credit Corporation, the Development Corporation? There is no economic development right now, no business development fund. Are there any inactive loans within those organizations at this time?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We can not seem to get clear amongst ourselves here what the question is, what the Member means by inactive loans. Perhaps you could ask if he could rephrase his question? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Clarification, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Loans that have been made by any of these agencies to businesses that are no longer operational but that have not been listed as bad debts to the government or for write-off. Are there any loans to individuals or companies that have not been brought forward that are, for all intents and purposes, defunct, that have not been brought forward to the Legislature for write-off as bad debts?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Henry, we are in grants and contributions. These are not loans.