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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is the Premier refusing to answer the question?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Erasmus, I believe the Premier said that he does not have the answer but he suggested you ask all the departments as they come before us. Would you like more clarification than that response?

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know that is what he suggested, but is he refusing to answer the question? He wants us to have to ask the same question every time a different person comes up here.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What I am suggesting is that, I do not have the information in front of me, but, for example, the Department of Education or the Department of Health or the RWED, or the Department of Transportation, they would know who their staffing people are in their department, and they would know where they came from. Whether they came from the old personnel department or not, but I do not have that information in front of me. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I know what he is saying, but in other words he is refusing to answer the question, but that is fine. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Total expenditures, $5,894,000, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regards to the intergovernmental affairs, we talk about issues versus the Yukon. Do you guys deal with issues relating to jurisdictions outside of Canada, such as United States, in regards to Alaska?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Krutko, I did not get your question at all. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question was in regards to intergovernmental affairs, where they talk of addressing intergovernmental issues and international issues between this government and jurisdictions outside of Canada, such as Alaska. Do they deal with issues that may effect us in the NWT in jurisdictions outside of Canada? And also, who is that person that is dealing with those issues?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we do deal with some issues outside of Canada. Through our Intergovernmental Affairs Office, through Liz Snider down in Ottawa, and we usually deal through the federal government. We are, even in some cases where Mr. Arlooktoo is, on behalf of the federal government, we deal with Russia on building of buildings because we have the best expertise in the cold climate of building buildings, so we are kind of like the lead on that for Canada. On other issues we have to work with Canada and the federal government to deal with other countries. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question also was who is heading up that portfolio in regards to who do we deal with when you want to deal with international issues in that department?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If you had an issue, you would come through me and I would go through Jeff to Liz. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regards to issues, as this government may know, especially with the Inuvialuit and Gwich'in which basically traditionally originate from Alaska, the Yukon, NWT, in which they do have a lot of jurisdictional ties between the aboriginal groups, in regards to the Porcupine Caribou issue, and also the issue that I raised in the house about Old Crow, I was told that this was not a GNWT issue and that they wanted to keep out of it but constituents of mine, who feel strongly that they would like to intervene or support themselves, I believe that this government should also support the people I represent in dealing with those issues, similar to the support they are giving in regards to the circumpolar community. So will I be able to have this department consider those issues and support me on them, so that we can resolve it, and also have the individual aware that there are other jurisdictions in the North that may need that support, and that they should be there dealing with the people who deal with international issues?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is very, very difficult for me to answer the Member's question, because he is asking me to form an opinion on the ruling of the Speaker and I think maybe the Speaker might throw me out of the House when he gets back or something if I question anything that he said and the Speaker ultimately makes the rules in this House, and the rules on Members' questions and I am not in a position, Mr. Chairman to question a ruling of the Speaker. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Morin. I would like to allow Members to address their questions and do their pre-empts to the questions but the question should have some relation to the topic before us, which is government operations, Executive Office, Cabinet Secretariat. So I would ask Members to restrict their questions to the issue at hand here. I am not quite sure that was a budgetary item, last question, Mr. Krutko?

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could the Premier tell me how much money has been spent in regards to international issues on behalf of the Gwich'in or Inuvialuit in my constituency?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to be able to tell the Member how much has been spent, but there is no possible way that I would ever be able to answer that question. I would love to be able to answer his question, I could turn to my deputy and say "go get me that information", but I know that would cost a lot of money to even look for that type of information when all the government spent, every government department and it would be very, very difficult to come up with a number that made any sense or a number that reflected what they spent on the Gwich'in, Inuvialuit on international issues, Mr. Chairman. It is really tough. I do not know how to answer that question.