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Further Return To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the ideal situation would be for the MLAs of the particular constituency to be involved in the communities that they represent. However, as we know, we will be in session until February and by the way we are going maybe we will be going until March. That does not allow us much time for MLAs to go into our communities. We are still formulating a plan. The plan is to try to get a page of different individuals, facilitators to go into the communities, some of the staff that has been working with us all along, to go into the communities and explain the package to the people in the communities. If time allows, any MLA who could make themselves available should do so, once the teams are in to the communities. Certainly, if I have the time, I personally would like to do that for the areas that I represent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was originally envisioned that the process would be completed by I believe, July, so that it could make the House of Commons and involve the federal government by the fall. The reason for the timeframe was because it would take two years to get through the House of Commons, so that we could amend the federal Act. I wonder if the Minister could tell us what timeframe we are now looking at, with regard to a new constitution or proposed changes?

Supplementary To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, like I said, we are still sorting out some of the work plan, the timing and so forth. Ideally, we would like to get the consultation done as soon as we can in the next two months or so. If not, then we will have to maybe extend that. We know realistically that it is impossible to do it by March, so we are going to have look at maybe as far as June, or even into the fall. We are still having meetings with the Constitutional Working Group. We are looking at the times, and ideally we would like to try to get the consultations done as quickly and as thoroughly as we can, so that as the feedback comes in, we will revise the document. Hopefully we will have a revised document by some time late summer or even early fall. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Minister knows the document was not well received initially in my community, and some other communities. There were a lot of comments. I wonder if the Minister could tell us what will be put before the general public during the consultation process?

Supplementary To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when the document was first tabled in this House and went to the public, there was no opportunity for myself or Members of the Constitutional Working Group or team, to properly put a package together and present it in a way where all elements that were put into this document were explained in a very acceptable way by all the participants. To this point in time, the staff have been able to put a package together that will incorporate all the different input that was put into the document. As you know, we are in partners with the aboriginal leaders in putting this package together as elected MLAs. It is a partnership kind of arrangement. To put the package forward we need to have input by different people that participated. I think we have a fairly good package together that incorporates the history of constitutional development in the North, along with the different elements that are there already in the Canadian constitution, the different sections that cover the different rights of everybody in Canada as well as in the north. Once the package is presented in that way, I think people will see it in a different light even though it was received quite negatively by a few people with very strong opinions in Yellowknife.

There are other people than those in Yellowknife throughout the north. I think even the reactions that I have heard personally are quite favourable now as people understand the package more. Hopefully the people that had very negative reactions at first, if they see a package that is well presented, will see it under a different light. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
Question 219-13(4): Funding The Western Constitutional Process
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Barnabas.

Question 220-13(4): Environmental Concerns At Nanasivik Mine
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member's statement, I stated that there was concern in my community of Arctic Bay. I would like to ask the Minister, Mr. Kakfwi. (Translation ends) ... practices at Nanasivik mine, have prompted Qitirmiut Association to ask for a full review of its operation. Is the Minister aware of this situation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 220-13(4): Environmental Concerns At Nanasivik Mine
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 220-13(4): Environmental Concerns At Nanasivik Mine
Question 220-13(4): Environmental Concerns At Nanasivik Mine
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, under the Environmental Right Act, any two members of the public can file an application in writing, disclosing their names and the full nature of the concern and file with this government requesting that, as a Minister, I take some action to have an investigation done should there be some substance to the concern raised in the application. As of today, although I am aware of the concern that was raised, there is not yet an application made. Once an application is received, we will decide how to proceed in response to the application. Thank you.

Return To Question 220-13(4): Environmental Concerns At Nanasivik Mine
Question 220-13(4): Environmental Concerns At Nanasivik Mine
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Renewable Resources and the Environment, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Speaker, there has been much concern regarding the recent tender issue for the sale of 11 DEW Line sites by the Department of National Defence. Recent environmental studies show that many of the buildings on these sites contain paint with high levels of PCBs. Canada's chloride biphenyl regulations prohibit the sale of material containing these substances. However, the Department of National Defence are asking to be allowed for exemptions for these sales. My question to the Minister is, has his department been following this issue and what is being done to address this situation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for Resource, Wildlife and Economic Development. Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, at a recent Environment Ministers' meeting, the federal Minister, Sergio Marchi, asked that a total ban be placed on any waste landfill sites with waste that contained PCBs to a certain level. Now the Department of National Defence is asking the same federal Minister to provide an exemption, so that the buildings and equipment at the DEW Line sites which contain a very high level of PCBs in the paint to provide an exemption, so that these buildings can be disposed of in landfill sites in the Northwest Territories.

We are following it. We are aware that the Department of National Defence is also speaking to aboriginal associations requesting landfill sites be made available to them for the purpose of disposing some of these wastes from the DEW Line sites. That is the information that I have to date. I am not aware that the federal Minister has responded to his counterpart in the Department of Defence. Thank you.

Return To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister is correct when he says that it is not acceptable for PCBs from these DEW Line sites to be buried in the Northwest Territories. My supplementary question to the Minister is, will he write the Minister of Department of National Defence, Mr. Sergio Marchi, the federal Minister for the Environment, to let them about the concerns we have in the Northwest Territories regarding the sale of the 11 DEW Line sites? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, just from a technical point of view, there is no scientific information at this time that says disposal of these buildings without crumbling them or cutting them into little pieces, will result in leeching of the PCBs into the environment. That is to say, if they are taken intact and put into wastefill sites, the way they are, technically we do not have any information that says we should be concerned. It seems to have been demonstrated that leaving them intact will, in fact, not cause any leeching of it into the environment. But, on the other hand, if the federal government is taking such a hard line on it, or willing to take the buildings and ship them out of the Northwest Territories and dispose of them, for instance, through the Swan Hill's facility in Alberta, and pay for the entire operation, then we have absolutely no objection with that. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the concern, here of course, is that it is a public tender. If Ed Picco, for example, buys a DEW Line site, it would not be, probably, cost efficient for me to bundle the site up and ship it out to Calgary, ship it out to Montreal, wherever. What they would like to do, the person who would buy this, is take off whatever they want in the buildings and then get rid of the rest, and that I guess, is why DIAND is asking for an exemption so that they could actually bury this in the Northwest Territories. My concern here would be, and the concern that has been raised is that they not be allowed to do that, and my question was to the Minister, would he write DND explaining our situation here in the Northwest Territories? Under no circumstances, no circumstances should these DEW Line sites, these buildings, this refuse, the paint, the PCBs be buried here in the Northwest Territories.

Supplementary To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
Question 221-13(4): Sale Of Dew Line Sites
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I take the point that the Member raises, of course. We are presently awaiting to meet with officials in the department in order to decide what the best course of action should be in regard to these recent activities taking place at the Ottawa level, regarding contaminants here in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.