Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Premier indicated a six month lead to the budget being passed. Well, that is pretty hard for MLAs to do, because we have no way of assuring that the budget is going to be passed and the figures in the budget are going to be accepted. Now, we are aware even as early as January, we see contracts tendered even though we are still discussing the project and the budget. Therefore, if the Premier is suggesting that sometime in August maybe we would be approaching the government to negotiate contracts for the next March or April 1.
Debates of March 5th, 1997
This is page numbers 1097 - 1133 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was aboriginal.
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Supplementary To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Morin.
Further Return To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through capital plan and process, when we develop the capital plan for the government or the proposed capital plan, we work closely with the communities and the communities know basically what they are getting next year. For example in Lutselk'e, we knew they were going to get a firehall next year because it was there. So, the community expresses interest to either go negotiated contract, public tender or project management. I am saying that in some cases it may take as long as six months to negotiate a contract. Yes, in some cases it does put the project off one full year so that they only get a foundation done in the first year, but that is the community's choice. If the community the Member represents is interested in negotiating contracts in this capital budget, they should let the Minister know as soon as possible. Thank you. They do have experience in negotiating contracts so it should happen in a fairly timely manner. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Steen.
Supplementary To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are two points here. One, the Premier said he would prefer a six month lead to negotiated contracts. However, for some reason or other it is only a three month lead to put forward a bid on a tender. I do not understand what takes three months to negotiate. The other point is, if the communities are in fact able to count on what is in those capital plans in a normal year, where there are no fiscal restraints, that would be good and possibly be able to do this. But we are operating in a fiscal situation where $100 million is cut out of the plan in a year. So, how can the communities be assured that these capital works are going to happen in the next year unless they see it in the budget? Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Morin.
Further Return To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to set the record straight, I did not say that I would prefer to have six months to negotiate. What I said was that in some cases it takes up to six months to negotiate, in some cases it takes a month. If the communities are interested in negotiating contracts, they should be in touch with the department that has those contracts and they should do that as soon as possible. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Question 459-13(4): Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq.
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, I asked an oral question on a contract relating to a contract in Clyde River for the building of the school. I would like to ask the Minister of DPW, Goo Arlooktoo, if he has any updated information on this contract situation? Thank you. (Translation ends)
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. The Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Arlooktoo.
Return To Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
(Translation) As I said yesterday, we do not have any updated information whether there are any businesses that are interested in the contract, but I was informed this morning that there is an interested business person from Cambridge Bay that was interested in the contract, but he will not go ahead with this contract. (Translation ends) I did indicate yesterday that, up to yesterday, there had been no official word about whether the negotiated contract had been contested. This morning, I was informed that it had been officially contested. Therefore, the
contract to build the learning centre in Clyde River will now go through the competitive process.
Return To Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Enuaraq.
Supplementary To Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When will the Minister be able to inform me or this business whether they will be awarded the contract? Thank you. (Translation ends)
Supplementary To Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Arlooktoo.
Further Return To Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
(Translation) The people in Clyde River will be informed if they have not been already regarding the learning centre, the contract will not be awarded, but they will have to try to get the contract. We had to do this. We had to follow the NTI's recommendation when there are a number of contractors that are interested. (Translation ends)
Further Return To Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Question 460-13(4): Building The School For Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Miltenberger.
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Premier as well. It is in regards to negotiated contracts. This was an issue in the riding that I represent and there was a concern in the community that one group in the community could go and negotiate a contract for the takeover of services in the community without necessarily having the involvement of all of the community. The Premier came down to Fort Smith and addressed the issues and he said there were three fundamental issues, which I would like him to confirm, that are required for a negotiated contract. Those conditions are: there has to be community support, it has to be within budget, it has to be northern. Could I ask the Premier whether those three fundamental conditions still apply? Thank you.
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Premier.
Return To Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That is 100 percent correct. What we call political peace in the community, you have to have community support to negotiate a contract. We have a budget. If it is $100,000, you have to negotiate that contract and bring it in under $100,000. It also has to have 100 percent northern involvement. They are not allowed to have any southern involvement at all on a negotiated contract. In the Nunavut claim area, there is one other clause, that is, you have to advertise for 21 days because of Article 24 and if any other Inuit companies say they are interested, then you cannot negotiate. Then you have to go to public tender. Thank you.
Return To Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In larger communities where there is a private sector, negotiated contracts may not always be the most appropriate way of doing business for that particular circumstance or that particular community. When you talk about community support, is there a role in there for the MLA? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Morin.
Further Return To Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a sheet on there, is this contract supported by the local MLA or not? That is the role of the MLA. We need to have the MLA's support. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.
Supplementary To Question 461-13(4): Conditions For Negotiated Contracts
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is it possible for a northern business from another region to come in to another region and try to negotiate a contract?