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Member's Statement 86-13(5): Internet Service In Smaller Communities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the course of this Assembly, myself along with a number of my colleagues have expressed our concerns over the lack of Internet service for the important knowledge that is not available within a number of our smaller communities. Today we live in an age where, if located south of the border or in Yellowknife, a person can sit on a beach, take a walk around town or be in a car. You can still be contacted by the outside world. With today's technology you can even be on-line with the Internet doing the task I mentioned; but still in the communities a person does not have the pleasure of cellular phones. I have a cellular phone to ensure that I keep in contact with my constituents. However, as soon as I go outside the 35-kilometre radius of Yellowknife, I lose my signal and I cannot communicate until I am back in this area. In Rae-Edzo, the largest Dene community of the Northwest Territories, we cannot communicate by cellular phones. The reason for this, I understand, is because NorthwesTel does not feel it necessary to install the needed equipment. We are no different than any other community. We all want the ability to communicate with our neighbours and the world, just like the rest of the world can. The worst of it is a safety factor. It has been proven countless times that people with a cellular phone can react to emergency calls faster than the people without. Every year we have a number of accidents on our highway. If you are outside the 35 kilometre range of Yellowknife, it takes at least 30 or 40 minutes of life saving time to get in touch with the RCMP or ambulance services. I hope by bringing this forward, NorthwesTel can see the need to move towards the 21st century. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 86-13(5): Internet Service In Smaller Communities
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Member's Statement 87-13(5): Family Planning
Item 3: Members' Statements

January 25th, 1998

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, previously in this House, I have raised the concern of family planning. This past summer in Pangnirtung, the Baffin leaders passed a motion to the effect that we would address the topic at our next meeting, later this year. This subject, by its very nature, is very sensitive and should be addressed with much care. My concern, Mr. Speaker, is that the government has no family planning or awareness programs. Again, this is left to the discretion of individual boards of health to implement. I do not think that this is acceptable.

In the Nunavut region as mentioned by the Baffin leaders, we have and are experiencing a baby boom. Most people are being born to younger mothers and this has increased pressure on the social envelope. The government should implement a territorial-wide family planning awareness campaign and provide extra resources to communities and boards of health to address this need. Mr. Speaker, it is a sensitive issue and a serious one. The GNWT should take the lead in this area and demonstrate by way of a plan of action that it takes the matter seriously. Our health care professionals have repeatedly mentioned the increased birth rates and what it means down the road. I will not get into statistics, like a birth rate of 23.4 per thousand. That is the highest in the western world, but it illustrates the depth of the concern. Mr. Speaker, later today, I will ask the Minister of Health questions on this matter.

Member's Statement 87-13(5): Family Planning
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

Member's Statement 88-13(5): Diamond Sorting And Valuation
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On January 22nd, CBC Radio interviewed Mr. David Cohen, a third generation expert on diamonds. I listened with interest as Mr. Cohen endorsed the viability of the north and the diamond industry and, more importantly, northerners providing the necessary services for diamond valuation and sorting. Mr. Cohen indicated how well-suited many northern and aboriginal people would be to the various positions, given natural artistic abilities, as well as how this industry could be well-suited to seasonal work. Mr. Cohen has gone on record indicating his lobbying efforts for secondary diamond industries in the north. I would hope that Mr. Cohen's expertise, his statements and findings are consistent with the objectives with the Department of RWED relating to diamond valuation and sorting in the north. I hope the Minister will give consideration to adding Mr. Cohen's name onto the list of consultants assisting his department. Mr. Cohen's comments will, I hope, add credibility to what Members of this House have been saying for many months. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 88-13(5): Diamond Sorting And Valuation
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus.

Member's Statement 89-13(5): Northern Nursing Program Graduation Ceremonies
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this past weekend I had the privilege and honour along with some of the other Members from this House, both from the west and from the east, to attend a ceremony here in the Great Hall to honour the graduates from the Aurora College Northern Nursing Program, Class of 1997. The graduates received their pins in advance of the actual graduation ceremonies because many of them will not be able to attend graduation. At this ceremony I was proud to see one of the graduates was a member of the Yellowknives Dene First Nation, Mary Jane Tsetta. She is one of the first members of the Yellowknives First Nation to achieve this.

Mary Jane is a wife and a mother of one son. She and her family live in Yellowknife. She has been totally committed to her studies. She, as an example, had to first take upgrading and then the nursing program which was a total of three and a half years. Also during her studies, she unfortunately lost her father and one of her brothers, but she continued in her commitment. I am pleased to announce also that she will be starting a job at Stanton Hospital very soon. Mary Jane is a non-drinker. She supports wellness and she is certainly a source of inspiration and good role model for her friends, her family and the rest of her people. I am sure we all wish her congratulations on a job well done and good luck in the new job. Thank you.

--Applause

Member's Statement 89-13(5): Northern Nursing Program Graduation Ceremonies
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Member's Statement 90-13(5): Privatization Of The Petroleum Products Division
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I will speak on the issue of the privatization of the government's petroleum products division or POL, as it is sometimes referred to. Mr. Speaker, I have stated my concerns in this House and in public on numerous occasions about the inadvisability of proceeding with privatization at this time. The infrastructure committee made previous tabled recommendations to this House that any further work on the privatization of the petroleum products division be delayed until after division. It was felt there were more pressing issues worthy of the government's efforts and fiscal resources at this juncture in time.

Mr. Speaker, regardless of the recommendation made by the committee that any further work on privatization be delayed until after division, I understand that a contract was issued for further recommendations on privatization.

I have stated previously that the GNWT and subsequently, the future Government of Nunavut and the west are the primary consumers of petroleum products in nonmarket communities. It should be of paramount importance to the two future governments that the pricing of petroleum products for other consumers and ourselves remain as low as possible.

Mr. Speaker, there are also serious concerns with the product quality control, environmental liabilities and whether an independent owner could have the financial where withal to deal with the enormous costs involved in set up, purchase and

distribution of fuel and other costs associated with this venture.

Mr. Speaker, two previous reports had been commissioned by this government on price controls and cost effectiveness of privatization. In spite of the committee's recommendation, a third report, I understand, is now complete. I will be surprised if this new report contains any information that was not in the previous two reports or available to the department.

Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister responsible for details of the future plans the department has for petroleum products division in question period today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Member's Statement 90-13(5): Privatization Of The Petroleum Products Division
Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Todd.

Return To Oral Questions 75-13(5): Transparency In Public/private Partnerships
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Picco on January 22nd, with respect to transparency in Public/Private Partnerships. In response to Mr. Picco's question with regard to transparency in Public/Private Partnerships, I want to assure my colleagues once again, the government is committed to transparency as we proceed with implementation. That Members of this Assembly will have full opportunity to participate in finalizing the proposals as members of standing committees.

As promised, I am pleased to announce I am tabling the policy document, guidelines for implementing Public/Private Partnerships later today. Financing capital projects through partnership initiatives means the government will be able to accommodate more community priorities faster within existing spending limits. I have asked each Minister with responsibility for infrastructure to review his or her department's capital forecasts and to provide me with recommendations for priority projects that we would add to the 1998-99 capital plan, if additional funding were available.

This review will take into consideration the input that Mr. Morin received from the communities last summer in response to his request for the priority of capital requirements. The list of additional priorities will be reviewed to identify those that have the greatest potential for payback either in the social or economic terms.

When combined with the products already included in the 1998-99 capital plan, we will have a list of some $240 million worth of projects. We will review all of these projects to determine which would be most appropriate to apply P3 approaches.

We will also do extensive cost benefit analysis on each project and determine what level of overall investment will be affordable. I will be seeking the input of Members of this Assembly during this review process, through the standing committees.

In response to Mr. Picco's question, I will table the final list of P3 initiatives for 1998-99 in this Assembly, along with any changes to the current capital proposals that may require approval of the Assembly. Thank you.

Return To Oral Questions 75-13(5): Transparency In Public/private Partnerships
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Henry.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Mr. Jeff Colburne, a local reporter with the Yellowknifer. I would like to point out that Jeff left Yellowknife prior to Christmas as a single man and returned married, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Dent.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Ms. Pat Thomas, the President of the NWTTA in the gallery and with her today is Mr. Barrie Chivers, who is legal counsel to the NWTTA, and an old family friend. In fact he was once my father's campaign manager.

--Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Enuaraq.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize the other half of me, my wife, Elisapee and beside her is Sarah Kooneeliusie, originally from Broughton Island, now living in Yellowknife. Thank you.

--Applause

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Public Works and Services.

Mr. Speaker, in spite of the Infrastructure Committee's recommendation not to proceed with the procurement of the further report, would the Minister please enlighten the House what the rationale was for proceeding with the securing of this report? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the government has decided to shelve the privatization of the petroleum products division. However, we still have to do some work. At division time, we have to look at the petroleum

products division after division because at the present time, there is cross-subsidization between the east and west, and following division that will no longer be the case. We will have to continue to do further work and look at how these changes are going to affect this division. Thank you.

Return To Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, is the Minister suggesting then that the recommendations regarding privatization contained in this document will be used to make decisions regarding division? Are they outside of the realm of privatization? Is that the understanding, Mr. Speaker?

Supplementary To Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Question 93-13(5): Privatization Of Petroleum Products Report
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the study that was done for the government in looking into the privatization of petroleum products contains a lot of information that is relevant to looking at the future plans of this division. Although we have shelved the initiative which privatizes this division, we are going to be having all these reports and recommendations that were coming out of these reports be available to the next governments for both east and the west, so they will look at this privatization after this government is finished. Thank you.