Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, over the last several months there have been many concerns and calls for ministerial resignations and I have brought up in this House before that the call for those resignations, answered by the Premier and, of course, I am addressing this to the Premier because it is under the Department of the Executive and because he has full control of the government. He is the titular head of government as it were. Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Anyway to continue my line of questioning before I was rudely interrupted by some other Members, I would like to ask the Premier, is there a stated policy within this government, in the Executive concerning calls for resignations of certain Ministers. Are they just brushed aside or does the Premier actually investigate the reasons for these types of incidents to see if there is legitimacy in these complaints or concerns? What is the protocol of the department for that? Thank you, Madam Chairperson.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Madam Chair. I take a serious look at it. I look at who is calling for it and then I decide and let them know.
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Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would have thought that within the Executive branch of government that the Premier, in consultation with his Cabinet which makes up the Executive department, would have probably discussed
those types of things, those issues when they come forward and he would consult with his other senior Cabinet Ministers who have been in Cabinet for a while, like himself who has been around for quite a while, to see what the issue would be, instead of just making a decision. If I am understanding it correctly, he makes the decision, says no, yes or no, or indeed does he talk to the other Members? If it is a concern, for example the Keewatin one - we have had a concern coming out of one individual riding - does the Premier then consult with other Members, and they could be Ministers or Members, in that area and ask them for their information which might be pertaining to the information for the request for resignation? I am just wondering how that works to the executive style of government. I was not sure if that is what the Premier had said earlier. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Madam Chair. For any given Minister if some person is asking for their resignation, guaranteed I will talk to that Minister and sometimes I do talk to the other Ministers. Thank you.
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Thank you. I do not want to belabour the point. I think just for clarity purposes, for the people of the Northwest Territories, the Premier has stated, and I think stated very eloquently here today and articulated his point very well, that, indeed, he takes ultimate responsibility for the decisions made for each individual Minister, because under our parliamentary system, am I not correct in assuming and maybe I would ask the Premier, indeed, under the Department of the Executive is it not correct that the Premier has the ultimate responsibility for decisions made by his individual Ministers. Is that correct?
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, that is correct. Also, Madam Chair, I would remind Members that if one of your constituents wants the resignation of one of our Ministers, you, as an MLA, can ask for it any day the session is on, you have that right. We serve at pleasure to this House. If you feel we do not please, put a motion on the floor. You can take any one of us out. That is how this consensus system is set up. That is completely up to you. Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I think most Members are aware that, indeed, as a group of individuals all elected by the constituencies that we represent, they have that ultimate right to ask for the resignation, and then, of course, there would be the matter of having the number of votes within the House. But I am just wondering on that process that is in place from the Premier and the Executive branch of government. We are dealing with the Executive here, and we are looking at the main estimates which would guarantee the spending patterns and so on of the Executive offices. I am wondering if there is any influence given by the Executive office on the awarding of contracts and so on or are those done by individual departments? So, for example, earlier today we had heard that when leases come up for negotiation, the deputy minister, in response to an earlier question, had the authorization of entering into a lease agreement. So I am wondering is that a standard practice within the government. Indeed, did the Executive branch of government give that responsibility for leases and so on and so forth to the deputy ministers or to functionaries within departments or does that actually, ultimately, come back to the Minister or the Premier for his approval? Thank you, Madam Chairperson.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Madam Chair. The particular lease you are talking about the deputy minister would have the authority to award that lease or extend that lease. It would depend on any given lease. As long as within that lease you have the authority as the deputy minister to extend it, then you can do it. But if the lease is ended and you wanted to extend it, then that would be a negotiated contract and the only way you can negotiate a contract is through the Cabinet. Then, there are very clear rules of how you can do that, but in this case it is not a negotiated contract. It is an extension of a lease, I understand, so that the deputy can do that.
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Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would just like to move on now under the Cabinet Secretariat, under the Department of the Executive and ask some questions in this area. Under the Cabinet Secretariat, under the corporate services division, I am wondering if the funding for those positions under the corporate services division, do they also include special attachments or special employee positions in Ottawa, for the Ottawa office of the Government of the Northwest Territories?
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Picco. That is a specific question on a specific activity and we are on general comments and questions, so I will have to ask you to re-ask that question when that activity comes up on the detail consideration of a bill. Any further general comments Mr. Picco?
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Thank you, Madam Chairperson. No, Madam Chairperson, I will give the opportunity to someone else to make general comments on the Department of the Executive. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Madam Chair. Following up on earlier questions presented by Mr. Ootes, referring to the type of message we are sending to southern Canada and other
places, maybe the Minister if he could, with the meetings and the different functions he mentioned, what is the message the Premier, as head of this government, is sending out to the rest of Canada and other countries? Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. The Northwest Territories is one of the best places to invest in this country. The Northwest Territories is the last frontier of this country. The Northwest Territories is one of the most responsible governments in this country. We have balanced our budget in the last two years. We have cut over 20 percent of our spending to do that. We did not do that without a lot of pain and without a lot of personal commitment but we have done it. That is the way we do business in the Northwest Territories. Like I said earlier, we are the last frontier. We have some of the most beautiful mountains, the cleanest lakes, the cleanest waters. We have a vast variety of landscapes, from the icebergs in the frozen sea in the east to the warm, big plains around Thebacha. We are where the action will be as long as we are allowed to develop. We are willing, capable and able to develop the Northwest Territories as long as the federal government does not get in our way. We do not need no bureaucracy or no bureaucrat in Ottawa saying yes to diamond projects in the Northwest Territories. We can do that ourselves. We are capable of doing it. We are capable of handling health care.
We are capable of handling education, we are capable of handling investment. We do those things and we are quite capable of doing those things. So, why would the federal government, on the other hand, say we are not capable of handling our minerals, our mining, our resources? That is basically the tone of the message I use when I go south. I try to attract investment. I try to attract people to look north. Pay attention. I just came off a trip with 520 people on Team Canada, all looking at places to invest. One question I asked them, why do you not look North? Why do you not look in Canada? We have a lot of opportunity, but I still feel that the biggest hindrance to development in the north is the federal government. I strongly feel that because all you have to do is get in your vehicle and drive south, the minute you pass the 60th parallel you barely have room on Alberta highways. You cannot even get a hotel room. Why is that? That is because the provincial government is in charge of development. The provincial government calls the shots. The oil does not stop at the 60th parallel. The resources do not stop at the 60th parallel. The only difference is, you have Alberta handling one side and the feds handling the other. That is the problem. The sooner we get devolution to the Northwest Territories; the sooner we get development in the Northwest Territories; the sooner we will pay our own way in this country. That is, basically, what I tell southerners.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to thank the Premier for that response. It sounds like we are getting a good message. Hopefully, we will see some results in the future to reflect on the message we have been sending. It is important. One of the other things I would like to say in general comments is there have been many changes happening in the north, as well, and constitutionally, as well as the changes in government process. I am wondering if the Premier will be, at some time in the near future, stating to the people of the territories the changes or the work that is ongoing? When it comes to this government and how it sits as representatives of the people, I wonder if the Premier will be at sometime in the near future making any comments to the people as to the change and the process to change. Thank you.