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John Todd Keewatin Central

The outcome of pay equity and the job evaluation will ultimately reflect the overall ongoing costs to this government. Is that the question? I am sorry I ...

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Todd, do you want clarification on the question?

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John Todd Keewatin Central

If we reach a satisfactory agreement on pay equity, there are two issues to pay equity. There is retroactivity, that is what we owe people from X years, which is about ten years that things have been going on. I would like, for the record to say once again that this Minister wants to solve it and wants to put cash in the hands of our employees. There is a retroactivity and then there is an ongoing cost that would be reflected in our overall costs in our wages and salaries. Absolutely, yes. But that is currently under negotiations, as I said, and as I am sure all the Members are aware, it is fairly sensitive. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister had mentioned that the federal government are also in a pay equity dispute. Can he advise us, given that this government has taken a lot of criticism for the length of time it has taken to resolve that issue, how long has the federal government had their pay equity issue unresolved?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I believe it is well over ten years, Mr. Chairman. I want to say, again for the record, I would like to be able to come to this House and reach a satisfactory, negotiated, affordable settlement to be able to put money into the hands of our employees, both in the retroactive and on the ongoing side. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Total operations and maintenance, $6,187,000. Do you have further questions, Mr. Henry?

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

No. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

I would like to recognize Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was wondering if the FMBS is responsible for looking into appeals when people feel they have not been treated fairly in the hiring process?

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Does the Minister know if there has been an increase in the amount of appeals in the past year, in relation to the previous year?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I did indicate, I think earlier, I was prepared to provide full details of that situation that Mr. Erasmus asks and also, just for clarity purposes, to advise him and others that this whole issue of appeals, et cetera, is published on an annual basis in the Public Service Annual Report and, as I said to Mr. Krutko earlier, I will provide the House with the current status of appeals and, if he wants, successes and failures. Thank you.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it would be nice to have the successes and failures. Also, if we could have the comparison to the previous year and the years before when the Personnel Secretariat lost the duties that it used to have in relation to being involved in the hiring process.

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The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Agreed, Mr. Chairman. Agreed.

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The Chair Vince Steen

We are on total operations and maintenance, page 2-27. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is the Minister aware of any other jurisdictions that have resolved pay equity issues?

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, Mr. Chairman. I do not know, I cannot remember. There were some there, but I know there has been some pay equity issues resolved in some of the provincial jurisdictions and, as you know, there is a huge pay equity issue at the national level.