Thank you, Mr. Picco. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Well, I cannot tell, that is a detailed question. I know there was a concerted effort on the part of government that where there were layoffs, we have to go back, to discuss that. The last two years we made the effort to try to reallocate people to different jobs. I do not have that level of detail here. If my honourable colleague wants it, I would be only too happy to get it.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
I just saw a difference of only 12 positions, so I thought that 12 positions, with the deputy minister there, Mr. Todd, I thought it would be very easy. I know, for example, in
my riding the four positions I know of, at least, I think two have gone into government positions. I would have expected the same from the department. I would appreciate that information from the Minister if that is possible. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, sir.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Program summary, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $42,460,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Vince Steen
I said, Mr. Krutko, we are on page 2-25, which is program summary. The last figure I called was total expenditures, $42,460,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you. In regard to that amount, I believe there was $7,433,000 spent on power subsidies. I have heard a lot of concerns with regard to the Power Corporation regarding the rates the Giant Mine and what not are saying that, where there are a lot of our communities where there have been increases that have affected the figures in regard to my riding where it is 34 cents a kilowatt and in some cases some mines are being subsidized at 11 cents a kilowatt. I would like to know, in regard to this government paying almost $7.5 million to this particular fund, how is it distributed? Is it distributed based on the communities, or how does the subsidy work?
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. I believe you were not quite finished? Mr. Krutko, were you finished with your question?
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Yes, Mr. Chairman. I would like to know exactly how this subsidy has been delivered. Is it based on communities or individuals or corporations or companies?
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Again, because program summary basically covers all of the activities, I will allow the question, but I would like to point out that the actual power subsidy is addressed on page 2-30. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The power subsidy is both a domestic and commercial one. It comes directly off the bill, if you want, with respect to domestic homeowners and small business. It is based upon, I believe Mr. Dent would probably give me a more accurate reflection, but it is based upon the same amount of kilowatts at the Yellowknife rate. It is based upon those x amount of kilowatts at Yellowknife rate, say, in Rankin Inlet and the subsidy would be the difference between the two. That is taken directly off of your bill on a month-to-month basis, Ii you are a private homeowner. There is also another subsidy on the small business/commercial side. The commercial subsidy, Mr. Voytilla advised me, you have to make an application for that. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to the actual expenditures of this government, the number I was talking about, the $7,433,00. Does it fit into the overall total of the $42,460,000, in regard to the way it is being distributed, because there has been a real increase, especially in my riding where private homeowners have seen an increase in their power bills. They say the subsidy is being fair in regard to the commercial subsidy which has gone down, but to the public, individual private homeowners it has gone up. Seeing exactly how these subsidies will assist the domestic use in a lot of these communities where you see increases in some communities but decreases in others, has there been a review to see exactly how this will affect each and every community in regards to the domestic usage?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Why not, Mr. Chairman. Let me try again. The domestic subsidy is provided to all homeowners right across the territories. The subsidy is for 700 kilowatts. It is subsidized down to the Yellowknife rate. So, if, for example, client A in Fort McPherson has a house, they get a subsidy that is the equivalent for the first 700 kilowatts of the Yellowknife rate. That is determined, I think, by the NWT Power Corporation. Mr. Dent, when his budget comes forward, will be able to talk about the details of it, but that is how it works. That subsidy is growing, quite frankly, Mr. Chairman. I think there is some concern. I am sure Mr. Dent will talk to it later on in the budget. It has gone up to, as we say, over $7 million. Thank you.
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