This is page numbers 1041 - 1091 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairperson.

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Further Return To Question 421-13(5): Payment For Movement Of Hall Beach Graves
Question 421-13(5): Payment For Movement Of Hall Beach Graves
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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February 23rd, 1998

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question, is to the Minister responsible for the Financial Management Board, Mr. Todd. It is in regard to the new job evaluation system. Mr. Speaker, this new job evaluation system still is of great concern to many employees of the Government of the Northwest Territories. At this stage, the last couple of days in the House the Minister alleviated some concerns about the present employees and indicated that their positions will be frozen as regard to pay and renumeration. The concern that is raised now is, Mr. Speaker, how the positions were evaluated and where they finish up on the scale. I note that the evaluation was performed by Hay and Associates. In the documentation that was presented to all government employees, it lays out some of the conditions how that was arrived at. My question to the Minister is, in what other jurisdictions other than Manitoba does the Hay and Associates perform these services for other governments? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

If my memory serves me correct, I understand they have done work in Manitoba, Ontario, some of the maritime provinces and I believe British Columbia. They have also done a variety of work for the private sector, not just governments. I know for sure Ontario, Manitoba and I believe some of the maritime provinces. I could get a full description of their government work, for my colleague, if he so wishes. They certainly have significant national/international experience. Thank you.

Return To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If the Minister could also at that time provide information as to job evaluation systems that they have done in other governments as to how they have worked out and how long they have been in place. I also note on this particular document, Mr. Speaker, it talks about the government explaining the new job evaluation system to employees. What provisions does the Financial Management Board have in place to respond to employees who have concerns about this new job evaluation system? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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John Todd Keewatin Central

I do not think there is any doubt that some employees whose pay level is going to be reduced would be concerned. Of course, the employees whose pay level is going to be increased will be pleased with that in terms of the job evaluation. I have talked to Mr. Voytilla and indicated to him that we have to deal with this on a one-to-one basis. We will. We are trying to communicate to the best of our ability as to why some things have happened. I did have a discussion early this morning, with my colleague from Inuvik, Mr. Roland who has a number of concerns. We will try to address them on an individual basis. I hope we are going to be able to demonstrate to our employees that we treat people in a fair and reasonable way. I believe there are more employees who will be getting a more pay level increases, if you want rather than those who are being reduced. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you, Mr. Todd for that. You will agree the more information people have the better informed they can be and the easier it is for them to accept some conditions especially if they are well informed. Would the Minister consider setting up a position, for at least a two-week period, where employees can call in and dedicate an employee who is well informed about how this evaluation system was done? Would the Minister consider setting up and dedicating an individual employee or a member of the Hay Plan to answer questions that the government employees have with regard to how the evaluation system is done? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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John Todd Keewatin Central

These are extremely important questions my colleague asks and I concur there is clearly a need to communicate with our staff and explain both positive and negative ramifications of the job evaluation system. I will be meeting with my deputy minister at noon, during the break. I will see what would be an appropriate process to give the employees access to either somebody or a group of people to try an answer their questions and will be in touch with my colleague and advise him what we are going to do. I will try to do it as quickly as possible. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
Question 422-13(5): Hay Job Evaluation System
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my

question at this time will be directed to the Premier. Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement, I raised the issue of funding for the tourism sector. We have heard in this Assembly many times, when we talk about more funding, the question seems to come back, from where? We have a number of areas we can work on. We do a lot of forgiveness of debts and so on. Maybe that is an area we can work on tightening up. I would like to know from the Premier, in the area of tourism and funding, does this government support this initiative and this activity? Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier.

Return To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not know the exact number of dollars we do have in support of marketing in the Northwest Territories. I do know that we market the Northwest Territories and we do have programs to assist tourism and people to market the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Return To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Knowing that we do support, to some degree, the tourism industry, I would like to know if this government, knowing that by spending a little more money, we can bring in new dollars to the Northwest Territories, which is dearly needed. Will you direct your Ministers to work on this issue to try and find some resources or the necessary funding to improve the area of tourism? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will be pleased to work with the Member as well as the Minister responsible for marketing of tourism in the Northwest Territories, to look at how we are doing and whether we can do a better job or not and sometimes we can do a better job possibly, without spending more dollars. Maybe it is just the way we are doing our marketing. We are doing a fairly good job on marketing. My understanding is tourism numbers are increasing by the year. I see there a lot of down-filled red jackets in Yellowknife throughout the winter months. By talking to those tourist operators and marketing of northern lights, tourism has grown from where it started off at approximately 400 tourists and then it jumped to 1,200. Last year it was 1,800. This year it is 4,000 with a good potential of growing to at least 10,000 tourists a year. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

Supplementary To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. From the Premier's answer, which leads me to the question of although there are increasing tourists especially in the Yellowknife area, that is not the same in the rest of the territories. There has been a slight reduction in the amount of tourists coming north. I think that we can draw a correspondence to the amount of funding we have been putting into tourism marketing. Although we know there are benefits, will there be the possibility of working together? I would like to see that happen as soon as possible that we may address some of the issues of all the regions in the territories. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The people who are involved in the tourism business as well as aboriginal groups who are involved in the marketing of tourism are talking and dealing with the Minister on creating a new marketing plan for tourism for the western Arctic. The eastern Arctic and Nunavut area have already embarked on marketing Nunavut and tourism over there. With marketing in the west, it is a matter of all the partners coming together to develop a marketing plan. Those marketing plans should also include all the regions. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
Question 423-13(5): Support For The Tourism Industry
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Roland.