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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Again in the area of disease surveillance, I noticed that in the winter issue of Eppie North, which is produced by the health protection unit of health and social services, it indicates that there were nine cases of rabies exposure in the Inuvik area in the past year. This is the first that I have heard of this. Do we know how this has occurred? Or is it all one related to the same incident? What is the situation here?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, not being totally certain, I would make this assumption because it is nine cases that it would be related to the one incident of one dog or fox being rabid and having individuals possibly exposed to that and that risk as a result of that Madam Chairperson. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Is it possible to find out and to report back, please?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Ng.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. I have Mr. Rabesca.

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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I have a question regarding what my honourable colleague, Mr. Krutko, is referring to regarding the board memberships. What might happen to the future board memberships when the Nunavut vision comes along? Is the west going to have its own members and Nunavut going to have its own members and the size of the membership that the west might have if division occurs? Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, in the Nunavut area, as you know, the Nunavut Implementation Commission Report recommended the dissolution of health boards and establishing a ministry of health to deliver and carry out the functions of the ministry, plus the delivery of health and social services. This government did not accept that recommendation. We continued to operate in the method that we do and moving toward a ministry function having boards carry out the program service delivery at a regional level. It will be up to the new Nunavut government post 1999 to decide on what form of mechanism they would like for their health and social services system in Nunavut. We cannot make that determination at this time for them Madam Chairperson. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $29.538 million. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would like to move a motion. I move this committee recommend that the Minister of Health and Social Services works toward the establishment of guidelines and standards developed for all health boards in the Northwest Territories.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. I do not have a copy of the motion. We will have to take a five-minute break and have the motion translated. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I would like to read the motion for the record, moved by Mr. Krutko, Member for the Mackenzie Delta. I move that this committee recommends that the Minister of Health and Social Services work toward the establishment of guidelines and standards for the operation of all health boards in the Northwest Territories. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Madam Chairperson, may I ask a question on this, of the Minister?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

The motion has been put forward by Mr. Krutko. You may speak to the motion. It is not the Ministers' motion, obviously. To the motion. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson for giving me permission, even though others may not. I am not opposed to the motion, but I would be very surprised and I would say the government would be remiss if they did not have some guidelines and standards in place prior to these boards being set up. As I say, I am not opposed to the motion, but I would be interested in knowing if the motion is potentially redundant. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. To the motion. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, the honourable Member from Yellowknife South brings up a good point. I wanted to make that same point, although, we will not be voting for or against the motion, we do, in fact, have guidelines and standards in place for operation of boards and some of them are far reaching. The set up of the program and clinical standards we assumed as has been noted in Hansard when we took over Health and Social Services from the federal government. What we have discussed is the fact we are moving on developing a statement of core services as refined of some of those standards and guidelines for our partners, the boards. Madam Chairperson, with that, I will not be voting for or against the motion. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ng. To the motion. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. In regard to the whole idea of guidelines and standards, we do not only have territorial standards and guidelines that we have to follow. We also have to follow national standards that are presently in place which affects everybody. The boards should be made aware these national standards also exist. Your responsibility and your taking that oath of office to be a board of director, you are also liable in regard to what you are getting yourself into, knowing that there are certain national standards and guidelines you have to fulfil as part of your obligations as a board member.

It is important that these things are spelt out and all boards in the territories follow the same standards and guidelines right across the board. There is not one board going to be any different from the next in delivering health care to the residents of the Northwest Territories. This is why it is critical we have consistency as to how these boards operate in the Northwest Territories.

That is why I put the motion forth in light of the Ministers' statement saying this is what they have done. Great, but this is just to ensure that will be carried out, so the next time the Minister is held accountable to ensure these things are all in place at the appropriate time and they do follow national standards and also the guidelines.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. To the motion. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, I am not opposed to the motion, either. If the motion would help to identify that, in fact, there are guidelines as to how many nurses are available per capita in a community, and the health boards can, in fact, meet those guidelines at all times. I presume this would also apply to doctors being available at any one time and to ensure health boards do, in fact, have that service available. There seems to be a suggestion of a lack of guidelines in the past whereby, when would the department step in, for instance, to take over the operation of the Kitikmeot Board or the Keewatin Board, I would say? If this motion serves to identify those guidelines that presumably exist according to the Minister, then there are no drawbacks to the motion. I am concerned with the ability of this government to step in when it is necessary. Therefore, in that sense I could support the motion. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Department of Health and Social Services, administration, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $29.538 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.