Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, I am never sure, as a Minister, what you are supposed to speak on these issues but speaking personally, I would like to see the YMIR change where the responsibility lies for it with the board of directors rather than coming for Legislative approval all the time. I will address that issue with Ms. Deneron as well. I would hope it does not become another issue, another issue and another issue. Otherwise, we are into a full review. I would suggest to my colleague, given the time left, I just do not see how we can it on the Legislative agenda. I wish we could but I would certainly address the YMIR issue, which is important to injured workers and the issue of the legislative

change necessary in the relationship to subsection 12(4) and report back in writing to my colleagues. Thank you.

Oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, just following up on some questions on pay equity. Mr. Speaker, if the UNW, as Mr. Todd just referred to Mark Partners representing the employees of this government do not agree that the new pay system is not gender neutral, who would receive such a complaint? How would that be handled? Thank you.

I am sorry, Mr. Picco, your question is out of order. It is hypothetical. Mr. Picco, would you like to rephrase your question?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will rephrase my question. Is there a mechanism in place to address any concerns between our partners, the UNW, and the government if they do not agree on the implementation of the gender neutral job classification system? Thank you.

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, of course, I am working on the assumption in negotiations that we can agree. I certainly hope we can. It would certainly be in the best interest of our employees and their membership. If we cannot come to an agreement, I would think that if negotiations breakdown, then the alternative is to go to the Human Rights Commission.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Human Rights Commission, is that the same group whom the GNWT lost a complaint against the last time, that put us in the position now where we have to negotiate a settlement because of a court order. Is that the same group? Thank you.

Mr. Todd.

I know it is the last day of session but my honourable colleague knows full-well that it is the same group. It is a nice tie.

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, following up on the question concerning the gender neutral job classification system. Mr. Todd had mentioned about the group who put this together, the Hay Plan Group, and has stated that, indeed, these people are recognized in their field. Did the Government of the Northwest Territories use completely the Hay Plan gender neutral job classification system or have we adapted it for our needs? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Todd.

We asked the Hay and Associates, who is a well-recognized Canadian firm both in the private and public sector, to provide us with a job-by-job classification. That is what we did. Thank you.

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Hay Groups has gone into other jurisdictions and have done different types of classification including gender neutral classification under the pay equity situation and the federal government, right now, is involved in their own complaint. I am wondering if the Minister for FMBS would be able to make available, to this House and to the public, how this evaluation system is actually carried out and how the different job classifications were found to be gender neutral. Thank you.

Mr. Todd.

I would be only too happy, Mr. Speaker, as I did earlier this morning, to offer the Member and committees a briefing on the Hay and Associates for the third time, to the Members so they understand fully how we came about with our job reclassification, et cetera.

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Erasmus.

The Minister for the Financial Management Board, Mr. Todd.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did undertake or said I would undertake to provide the Members with a full detailed client base of Hay and Associates. I am prepared to do that. I do know from my briefing notes and my discussions with them, they have done a considerable amount of work for, as I said last week, for the Manitoba government, Ontario Hydro, some libraries in some of the provincial jurisdictions. I have my notes here. If I may, for my honourable colleagues, they have done some work for the alcohol foundation for Manitoba, the Canadian House of Commons, the library of the Canadian Parliament, Cineplex Odeon, the Halton Board of Education, Markham Hydro, government of Manitoba, Public Insurance Corporation of Manitoba, Mississauga Hydro, Patens and Baldwin, a textile manufacturer, University of Manitoba, Toronto Star and a number of utility companies, et cetera. I could go on and on about the background here. What I am trying to demonstrate to my colleagues is the diversity of clients that Hay and Associates have dealt with, both in the public and private sector. I think it is significant and I will provide, by letter, to my colleagues a full comprehensive listing of the client base that Hay and Associates have. Thank you.