This is page numbers 1401 - 1431 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was education.

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Tabled Document 93-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding Pay Equity/collective Bargaining
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table two different sets of documents. The first is, I have received 27 letters, some of which are form letters in regard to the outstanding bargaining situation between the Union of Northern Workers and this government. This is my first batch, Mr. Speaker. There are 27 letters in total.

Tabled Document 94-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding Education Funding
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

The second, Mr. Speaker, is I wish to table eight letters regarding the funding matter for education. I have eight letters in support of more funding for education. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 94-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding Education Funding
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Tabling of documents. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Tabled Document 95-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding The Kids Are Worth It Campaign
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a package of letters here that I have received from my constituents containing 70 signatures with respect to support for education for our children.

Tabled Document 96-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding Education Funding
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I also have a letter from a teacher in Hay River, Pat Burnstad from the Diamond Jenness Secondary School, again with respect to the state of education in the Northwest Territories and in Hay River. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 96-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding Education Funding
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Tabling of documents. Mr. Henry.

Tabled Document 97-13(5): Package Of Letters From Unw Members Regarding Pay Equity/collective Bargaining
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table some documents, a package of 37 form letters from UNW members expressing their concerns with the pay equity and current collective bargaining impasse with the Government of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 97-13(5): Package Of Letters From Unw Members Regarding Pay Equity/collective Bargaining
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Tabling of documents. Mr. Erasmus.

Tabled Document 98-13(5): Package Of Letters From Unw Members Regarding Pay Equity/collective Bargaining
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table 10 letters from UNW members asking that this government deal with pay equity issues with the current collective bargaining process.

Tabled Document 99-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding Education Funding
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

I also have two letters urging more money is put into the education area. Thank you.

Tabled Document 99-13(5): Package Of Letters Regarding Education Funding
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motions for first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Mr. Arlooktoo.

Bill 17: An Act To Amend The Territorial Court Act And The Justices Of The Peace Act
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Keewatin Central, that Bill 17, An Act to Amend the Territorial Court Act and the Justices of the Peace Act, be read for the second time.

Mr. Speaker, this bill amends the Territorial Court Act to provide for the establishment of the Northwest Territories Judicial Renumeration Commission.

This bill also amends the Territorial Court Act and the Justices of the Peace Act, to give Justices of the Peace jurisdiction under the Young Offenders Act. The bill also makes consequential amendments to the Interpretation Act and the Young Offenders Act. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Bill 17: An Act To Amend The Territorial Court Act And The Justices Of The Peace Act
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the principle of the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Bill 17, has had second reading and accordingly the bill stands referred to a committee. Second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters. Bill 7 and State of Education in the Northwest Territories with Mrs. Groenewegen in the Chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I would like to call the Committee of the Whole to order. We have two items on the agenda today, Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Territorial Court Act, and also State of Education in the Northwest Territories. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Ootes.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, that we continue with the State of Education.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. We will take a short break right now. The Minister of Education has asked us to join in a celebration in the Great Hall on the launch of the Tools for Success campaign. Agreed?

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

--Break.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I call Committee of the Whole back to order and ask the Minister if he would like to bring witnesses. Is the committee agreed?

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Agreed. Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Yes, please.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

For the record, we have Mr. Dent and Mr. Mark Cleveland, the Deputy Minister of Education at the table and we are on State of Education in the Northwest Territories and we are on general comments. Are there any Members who would still like to make general comments? If there are no further general comments then we will move on to Mr. Evaloarjuk.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

May 25th, 1998

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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would like to make a short comment. I would like to thank the Minister of Education and his assistant. I know it is very hard work to deal with education and also the teachers. I know for a fact that the teachers are working very hard to educate our children. I know it is very hard being a teacher, especially when there are so many students in some communities. We have to recognize that the teachers are working very hard. I know there is not enough money in the Department of Education and I know there is a need for more schools and for more teachers. I know it must be very hard to deal with the money, especially with all the cutbacks and every year inflation is going up. I think we all know that.

There are some other programs that we have to deal with in each community and we need all those existing programs. For example, municipal services are very important in communities. This is an ongoing program. I would like to see them continued.

I never want to cut money for education. We have to spend money on education. There is a policy in place that we have to teach the children. The children have to be at school. This is a law. The children have to attend school. Back in the 1970s we tried to deal with the policy in the communities, but looking at the smaller communities, what they were saying was, if your child does not attend school, the parents will have to go to court. I know it is very hard to deal with education. There is a policy in place, why cannot we put some more money into the Department of Education? We have to work with the teachers and sometimes the teachers have to resign from their positions because they are not making enough money. They cannot keep up with inflation. They have to pay for rent and groceries. That is why I have to say that teachers are working very hard to educate our children. Therefore, I do not want to see any more cutbacks. Today we all have to make money. That is all I have to say for now. Thank you, Madam Chairperson. (Translation ends)

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

General comments. Mr. Henry.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I believe the communities through the elected representatives have requested maybe not an impossible but certainly a difficult task of the Minister and the Department of Education. I think it is fair to say that the rate that we are graduating students in the territories lags behind any of our counterparts in the provinces, but I think it is worth noting that there is a steady increase, at least in the figures that are being presented by the department. I think it would be interesting to know if the numbers of graduates from Yellowknife were removed from the statistics would, whether the number of graduates would, in fact, continue to show a steady increase. I would find that information interesting.

I think the department has an extremely difficult job. When we consider the percentages of students, whom we have in the Northwest Territories in our communities, including Yellowknife, with learning difficulties, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome/Fetal Alcohol Effect, Attention Deficit Disorder, Dyslexia. I think the department has to put more effort into working with the institutions that train our teachers to ensure that the teachers are being provided the best possible tools to deal with the situations that they are going to run into when they go into the classroom. I am not convinced that more work in that area would not benefit the students of the Northwest Territories. I suspect the teachers are not getting as much education on how to deal with these situations in the classroom and I would suggest that students who are not properly diagnosed early stand less of a chance of being successful in their schooling.

I am not convinced that more money thrown at education will solve the problem. I think we have, as a government and the department, to look and do some assessment as to why we are not getting a better increase in our graduate rate. I believe the department and the government have to get the message across to parents and students that the government can no longer provide education and upgrading and more emphasis has to be put into communicating to parents and students that you have to get this education early on. The government cannot continue to provide an education to you from kindergarten to grade 12. It is a one shot where we are running and I believe the Minister has told us in this House before that during the budget cuts that he did remove money from adult education to put into education in the classroom, the kindergarten to grade 12. I think that message has to be continually communicated to parents and parents have to be encouraged to spend more time with their children and encouraging their children to realize the benefits of what an education can do for them and the necessities of that in daily life.