This is page numbers 137 - 168 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was development.

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Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have my name as the seconder for this motion. However, I want this House to note that the support from the Deh Cho First Nations for this motion is conditional.

Mr. Speaker, as the Members will recall, when the aboriginal leaders met in Fort Liard last month, they were ready to talk about a Mackenzie Valley pipeline, to talk about business partnerships, to maximize ownership and benefits of the pipeline. I will remind Members they sent a clear message they wanted it to be built on their terms. It was noted by those leaders we are now at a point where several land claims have been settled and others are currently at different stages of negotiations. The invitation for business, industry and government to approach the leadership on their terms. For my own region, this involves the recognition that the leadership is still negotiating political development. The Deh Cho First Nations are still discussing their self-government arrangements, which is referred to as the Deh Cho proposal.

Mr. Speaker, this is why today I stand to make clear that Deh Cho has given conditional support for this motion. I will remind Members that the participation from the Deh Cho is dependent on how much progress is made to this process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. To the motion. The Chair recognizes the honourable Member for Nahendeh.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I would like to speak to the motion and makes some comments on behalf of the Members of the Cabinet. Before I begin, I would like to note, for the record, Cabinet will be abstaining from the vote on this motion as per the usual custom of the House.

With that said, Mr. Speaker, it is important to state that Cabinet and the Government of the Northwest Territories fully supports the intent of this motion.

-- Applause

On behalf of Cabinet, I would like to thank Mr. Roland and Mr. McLeod for putting this motion forward and I hope all Members will support it.

Mr. Speaker, I had the pleasure of traveling to Fort Liard, along with Mr. Joe Handley and Mr. Mike McLeod, to attend the Aboriginal Leaders' Meeting on Oil and Gas on January 26, 2000. In fact, we arrived at the meeting while they were deliberating on this motion. They had unanimously agreed to work together to maximize ownership and benefits of the Mackenzie Valley pipeline.

Mr. Speaker, this was, indeed, a historic occasion. It was the first time, in my memory, since the Berger Inquiry that aboriginal leaders from up and down the valley and from all regions of this Territory had met to discuss the Mackenzie Valley pipeline. The recent meeting in Fort Liard shows how the attitudes towards development have changed since the Berger Inquiry.

This change has taken place because the aboriginal people of the Northwest Territories have taken huge strides in advancing their rights. They now wish to expand the benefits they received from resource development to include equity participation and ownership, in addition to jobs, training and business opportunities. Mr. Speaker, it was obvious from the discussion in Fort Liard, and the subsequent discussions that I had with aboriginal leaders, that aboriginal governments are ready to take on these types of projects.

More importantly, aboriginal people want to ensure equity participation in this and other large-scale resource development projects in the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, this is an important and historic statement, and one fully supported by this government. Mr. Speaker, as I stated earlier, this government is committed to the intent of this motion. I would, however, like to speak to two of the resolutions in particular.

First, the motion commits the 14th Legislative Assembly to work cooperatively with aboriginal governments to take control of the development of northern resources. Sharing control of northern resources with aboriginal governments is one of the five key components of the Agenda for the New North. This involves the sharing of the management and control of resource development and, more importantly, the revenues that accrue from the development of our resources. The Members of the 14th Legislative Assembly have generally agreed that the agenda will serve as the basis for establishing the priorities and direction for this Assembly. I would also note, Mr. Speaker, Members have agreed that this government must work in partnership with aboriginal governments on issues affecting the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, this government is of the view that the establishment of an intergovernmental forum and an ongoing governmental process is the best way to proceed on pursuing northern control of northern resources. Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, the Premier, Mr. Handley and myself met with aboriginal leaders from across the Northwest Territories to hold preliminary discussions on the establishment of this intergovernmental process. Northern control of northern resources was an issue that was discussed at some length at this meeting.

Mr. Speaker, the second resolution set out in the motion urges the government, in partnership with aboriginal governments, to actively promote the development of a natural gas pipeline through the Mackenzie Valley. Mr. Speaker, it is the view of this government that the Mackenzie Valley is the natural routing for such a pipeline. We are committed to working with aboriginal governments to actively promote this routing and to provide the support required to ensure that this project moves forward.

Before I end today, I would like to, again, commend aboriginal leaders for their accomplishment in Fort Liard. As the next step, aboriginal leaders have struck a working committee, chaired by Chief Harry Deneron of the Acho Koe Dene Band to work on building the business partnership necessary to move this project forward. The Government of the Northwest Territories is committed to working with and providing support to this committee to ensure that their work is successful. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Antoine. To the motion. The Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I, too, will be supporting this motion. I believe we do have to get on with it because there are other jurisdictions in the country that would like to see this pipeline run through their jurisdiction. Mr. Speaker, I am talking about the Government of the Yukon, which passed a similar motion in their House a number of weeks ago. They have been lobbying the Alaska government and people in Congress in the 48th State.

So, I think it is important that this government also takes the initiative to start promoting, not only here in the North, but in other jurisdictions in Canada, Alaska and in the United States.

And with that, Mr. Speaker, I think it is critical that this government proceeds with these talks and discussions to ensure that we do put forth a very saleable package because we do have pipeline right-of-ways already in our jurisdiction. We do have land claims settled in a majority of the areas and we are working on settling in the rest of the Territories.

But, Mr. Speaker, most importantly, I believe this government has to get ourselves ready, not only as a government, but for the people we represent, by ensuring those people are adequately trained and that we have the human resources and the infrastructure in place to take on such a project.

We have an opportunity in the area of the secondary industries. If you look at the trucking industry in the Northwest Territories, you are talking about competition. Right now, there is a surge of trucks available to Robinson's Trucking and the mines of the Northwest Territories because of oil and gas development in British Columbia, Alberta and in western Canada. In order for us to benefit, we have to realize that we do not have much time, Mr. Speaker. They are talking 2007 or 2008 for this project to be up and running.

As a government, we have to ensure we have all the processes in place, claims settled, the Northern Accord devolution process concluded, and ensure that the regulatory processes are in place to take on such a project so that Northerners will be totally involved in the environmental assessment process, and also to ensure that we receive the maximum for economic benefits that flow from such a major project.

With that, Mr. Speaker, I will be supporting the motion. Thank you.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. To the motion. Mr. Roland has the opportunity to sum it up as the final speaker. Mr. Roland.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank, as well, Minister Antoine for making a statement, although I am somewhat disappointed they will not actually take a vote. It is following tradition, I believe. I would like to state that, as a government, it is time we moved on to the next stage and create a true partnership in the North. With that, Mr. Speaker, I will be requesting a recorded vote on this. Thank you.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. A recorded vote has been requested. To the motion. Question has been called. Mr. Clerk, would you record the vote? All those in favour, please stand.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Roland, Mr. Dent, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. McLeod, Mr. Bell, Mr. Nitah, Mr. Braden, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Delorey, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Lee.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

All those opposed, would you please stand? All those abstaining, would you please stand?

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Steen, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Handley, Mr. Allen, Mr. Ootes.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. The results of the recorded vote, Yes-11, No-zero, Abstentions-six. The motion is carried.

-- Applause

Item 16, motions. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to deal with the motion I gave notice of earlier today. Thank you.

Motion 10-14(2): Pipeline Development (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. The Member is seeking unanimous consent to deal with the motion. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Braden, you have unanimous consent and may proceed.

Motion 11-14(2): Extended Adjournment (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Weledeh that notwithstanding Rule 4, that when this House adjourns on Tuesday, February 29, 2000, it shall be adjourned until Tuesday, March 21, 2000;

AND FURTHER, that any time prior to March 21, 2000, if the Speaker is satisfied, after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly, that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 11-14(2): Extended Adjournment (carried)
Item 16: Motions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden. We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? Thank you. All those opposed? Thank you. The motion is carried.

Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters, Minister's statement 1-14(2), Sessional Statement, and tabled document 14-14(2), Our Community, Our Decision, Let's Get on With It!, with Mr. Krutko in the chair.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you. We are dealing in committee of the whole with Minister's Statement 1-14(2), Sessional Statement and Tabled Document 14-14(2), Our Community, Our Decision, Let's Get on With It!. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Dent.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move we report progress.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

There is a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order. The motion is not debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. I will rise to report progress.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

The House will come back to order. Item 20, report of committee of the whole. Mr. Krutko.

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Minister's Statement 1-14(2), Sessional Statement and would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Is there a seconder for the motion? The Chair recognizes the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland, as the seconder. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, orders of the day, Mr. Clerk.

Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Speaker, there will be a meeting of the Standing Committee of Accountability and Oversight immediately after adjournment tonight. At 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, there will be meetings of the Standing Committee on Governance and Economic Development and of the Standing Committee on Social Programs. Orders of the day for Tuesday, March 21, 2000:

  1. Prayer
  2. Ministers' Statements
  3. Members' Statements
  4. Returns to Oral Questions
  5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
  6. Oral Questions
  7. Written Questions
  8. Returns to Written Questions
  9. Replies to Opening Address
  10. Petitions
  11. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
  12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
  13. Tabling of Documents
  14. Notices of Motion
  15. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills
  16. Motions
  17. First Reading of Bills
  18. Second Reading of Bills
  19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
  20. -Ministers' Statement 1-14(2), Sessional Statement

    -Tabled Document 14-14(2), Our Communities, Our Decisions: Let's Get on With It!. Final Report of the Minister's Forum on Health and Social Services

  21. Report of Committee of the Whole
  22. Third Reading of Bills
  23. Orders of the Day

Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Tuesday, March 21, 2000 at 1:30 p.m.

--ADJOURNMENT