This is page numbers 137 - 168 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was development.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I pose these questions to the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation. I would like to try some of the unanswered questions I had, specifically regarding the potential cost of the division of the Northwest Territories Power Corporation between Nunavut and the Northwest Territories. The previous government indicated there would be a five percent increase in cost when this split occurred.

Can the Minister indicate whether that is still the number the 14th Assembly and Cabinet is looking at?

Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to go over the background on this again, the Government of Nunavut decided they wanted to form their own corporation in Nunavut. A transition agreement was reached that would take effect on March 31, 1999. In the interim, the corporation runs the power plants in Nunavut as well as its employees. Nunavut has indicated they are looking for a systems manager. The corporation has expressed an interest in being that systems manager. So far, there is no response on that.

With regard to the process of division, there will have to be a process to divide the assets and liabilities between the two territories. The information I have does not address yet, other than information we have been provided, the amount the impact will be on the west. I will have to look into that further. Thank you,

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Ootes. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Given the short time before the end of question period, I seek unanimous consent to extend question period.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Member is seeking unanimous consent to extend question period. Are there any nays? There are no nays. The clock will be reset for one hour. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, given the fact the Power Corporation is such a significant asset and provides such a critical service, there is expensive work done. The five percent rate increase was very clear and was one of the big issues. Can the Minister indicate whether he is aware this five percent rate increase is on the table and was one of the consequences of splitting the corporation in two? Are we going to absorb that cost, or are we going to pass it on to all of the ratepayers? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, Nunavut is looking for a systems manager. I am not sure of the status of that at the moment. Should we not be successful to have the corporation remain as the systems manager for both the west and the east, there will no doubt be impacts upon the corporation. The information I have been provided with so far indicates we would have to have layoffs, possibly at headquarters. There may have to be a rate increase. That would have to be done through the Public Utilities Board. At this particular point in time, I do not have any further information, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like the Minister to clarify whether he does not have the information or whether the corporation is totally unprepared and has not done any planning, and the Minister is not aware as a result of that? Or have they done all sorts of planning, but the Minister has not had time to be briefed?

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is information I do not have. To the best of my knowledge, the corporation is meeting with both governments to look at both the division of assets and liabilities.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Ootes. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, could the Minister indicate whether he would be in the position to speak knowledgably of this issue when we gather in March, so we can address the issues of layoffs and rate increases? So we can address the issue of what happens if NTPC is removed as a supplier in Fort Simpson, and what that does to things like the power subsidy? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I am getting up to speed on the corporation, both on the Nunavut issue and on the Fort Simpson issue. I am in the process of meeting with officials from Fort Simpson. I will be attending a meeting in Fort Simpson within the next week. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Ootes. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister is aware of some of the impacts, given the fact we are going to lose 40 percent of the jurisdiction of NTPC. Is the Minister in the position to quantify the potential layoffs that may occur as a result? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On Ntpc Rates
Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not in a position to put exact figures on the number of layoffs at this particular time. Thank you.

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Question 80-14(2): Impact Of Division On NTPC Rates
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Item 6, oral questions. The Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

Question 81-14(2): Aboriginal Treaty Rights For Education
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Mr. Ootes, this is related to a question I asked you a few days ago, which you took notice. Can you or your department start a process that will determine the amount of dollars that has been routed through this government for aboriginal post-secondary education as a right from the treaties? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 81-14(2): Aboriginal Treaty Rights For Education
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. Before the Minister answers, may I ask Members to direct their questions to the Chair, which will then be directed to the appropriate Minister. Do not directly address the Minister. The Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 81-14(2): Aboriginal Treaty Rights For Education
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding is that funding is provided on the basis of the transfer agreement from Ottawa. It is not specifically identified according to treaty rights. The allocation to the department is done on the basis of funding from the Financial Management Board according to the budget it establishes. Thank you.