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Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment regarding the seniors' fuel subsidy. The $30,000 to $39,000 that was established as a basis for a qualification by seniors to qualify for the seniors' fuel subsidy was introduced in 1997. Since then, the cost of living has gone up dramatically, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister commit to the people of the Northwest Territories in this House today that he will revisit the criteria, the limit of $30,000 to $39,000 for qualification of seniors? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are talking about a fuel subsidy rebate program, as well, the fuel subsidy program. I think the purpose of the fuel subsidy program was to address some of these areas of increased costs. Seniors have the ability, providing they meet the criteria, to apply for this as well. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know exactly what we are talking about. We are talking about the seniors' fuel subsidy. I am talking about how people qualify for this subsidy. If you make a certain amount of dollars, you qualify. If you make more than that certain amount of dollars, you do not qualify. My point is the cost of living has gone up dramatically since 1997 because of fuel prices. I am just wondering if the Minister and his department could look into the line that qualifies you or does not qualify you for the fuel subsidy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the time this was set, there was, no doubt, criteria established to set these rates. The fuel prices have increased over the past three quarters of a year. The fuel rebate that we have introduced, Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, addresses some of this for many residents in the Northwest Territories, including seniors. There is a lot of criteria that went into setting these zone rates. I am not sure what the criteria was at that particular time. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Ootes. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With all due respect, Mr. Speaker, the rebate that has been getting so much attention in the Northwest Territories does not even fill up your fuel tank once. I am talking about a program for seniors that qualifies them to get fuel subsidies. I am not talking about the rebate. The rebate does not touch it. Can the Minister commit to this House that they will look at the bottom line of qualifications by elders or seniors for the fuel subsidy, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We can certainly have a look at it, Mr. Speaker. I have to point out as well that if there are needs on the part of people, we do have the Income Support Program where we address it through the food rates. We are looking at that and we are increasing that particular rate. If there is need out there, we are addressing it in that fashion as well. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Ootes. Final supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This question is for people who are working, seniors who are working today. We are not talking about income support here. We are not talking about food banks. I just want a commitment from the Minister that he will seriously consider, no, seriously look into raising the bar of income levels of seniors who may qualify for the seniors' fuel subsidy program. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, in my previous response, I have stated we would look at what criteria was used to establish the fuel rates, the fuel subsidy program for seniors. I think it is important for me to have that in hand. Once I have that in hand, I can proceed from there.

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Question 417-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Ootes. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bell.

Question 418-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal Implementation
Item 6: Oral Questions

February 27th, 2001

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for Finance, Mr. Handley. On January 17th, in the Premier's address to the people of the Northwest Territories, he said:

"With a gas pipeline and low cost of hydro-electric power, we can look at options for dealing with high fuel prices that make it difficult for people to pay their utility bills and heat their homes. In the short term, we will continue to find ways to assist those people who are the most affected by rising fuel prices."

Mr. Speaker, I guess I would like to ask the question that Ms. Lee has already asked. Why are we up against an arbitrary deadline and why are we going to find out about the details when it is released in the paper next week?

Question 418-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal Implementation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Finance, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I guess we can look at this from two sides. One is, as I mentioned before, there are people out there who have minimal income. Those people are often referred to as the working poor. They pay for their own fuel. They need some help now. We are committed to getting rebate cheques to them by the end of March. This is a one-time program. Looking at it from their perspective, it is needed now, not three months from now. I take that into consideration. I have concerns for those people.

Looking at the other side, Members want opportunities to ask me questions. This was announced in the budget address. During this past week -- almost two weeks, week-and-a-half -- we have been listening to and hearing what people are saying. I want to wait until I am sure I have the best advice from the Members, make the final changes, get this program out and hopefully get the cheques into the hands of people before the end of March. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Bell.

Supplementary To Question 418-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal Implementation
Question 418-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal Implementation
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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our real fear is that this is going to miss some people who really need the money. We are very concerned the details will be released before we have a chance to make their case to the Minister. If the Premier has been on this since January and possibly earlier, why has there not been meaningful consultation with this side of the House?

Supplementary To Question 418-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal Implementation
Question 418-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal Implementation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Finance, Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, we have been hearing from the Members for most of the past year about the need to do something to help people with the rising fuel prices. We have heard Members. We have listened to what you have said. This was discussed during the business planning process and a number of different situations. So there has been ongoing consultation over the past year. It was only the last few weeks that we have been able to put together a program that we feel can help the majority of people. There may be some individuals who will be missed out. We have to deal with categories of people. It would be terribly difficult to administer a program and get cheques out on time if we tried to look after every single circumstance.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Bell.

Supplementary To Question 418-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal Implementation
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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with all due respect, the problem was raised in the business planning process, but there was no indication of a program. Will the Minister commit in the next few days to presenting us with a draft so that we can analyze it with him and provide him feedback and have some impact on the final program?