This is page numbers 1331 - 1396 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Supplementary To Question 413-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal
Question 413-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Finance, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 413-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, no.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
Item 6: Oral Questions

February 27th, 2001

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question today is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. As this seems to be a hot topic, I may as well go with that topic and it deals with fuel.

In the Northwest Territories, we are facing high fuel costs. There are programs for people who are on income support and there are programs for people who are senior citizens. I will deal with that, but I wanted to point one thing out. For those people whom I represent, those working, poor people -- I am sorry there are no programs for you guys -- there are questions that the Minister still has to answer.

On the issues of the seniors' fuel subsidy, I understand that you have to be age 60 to qualify for that. How has that information been distributed to the people of the Northwest Territories, specifically the smaller communities in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The question is directed to the honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that the information is distributed through our centres that handle income support and the payments of fuel subsidies. It is generally distributed through mechanisms such as our offices and so forth, and upon enquiries. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you. How does one qualify for this subsidy? Is it based on the income level? If it is based on the income level, is it a P1, P2, P3 or whatever? Do you have to live in a certain locale? Can the Minister give us an example of how this system works in outlying communities and regional centres? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. There are too many questions in there, but I will allow the Minister to respond if he chooses. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The methodology of application, of course, is through one of our offices or one of our individuals who may be available in various communities, and through enquiries. The rates are set according to zones. We have three zones in the Territories. Some are on the highway zone and the others are not. We have maximum earning rates between $30,000 and $39,000 as the cutoff. Thank you

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Ootes. Supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Those zones and the maximum rate of $39,000, I wonder when those were established, the maximum rates of income. Was it established before the high fuel prices increased the high cost of living in general in the Northwest Territories or were the rates introduced after the rise in fuel prices? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Further Return To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The seniors' fuel subsidy rates were established in and around 1997, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Merci, Mr. Minister. Your final supplementary, Mr. Nitah.

Supplementary To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. That is interesting. In 1997, the fuel prices were low. The cost of living is a lot more today. I am sure the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment will revisit the rate and adjust the rate accordingly.

The Minister of Finance mentioned something that caught my ear. He was talking about the seniors qualifying for the fuel rebate. How does one qualify for the fuel rebate if you are a senior, Mr. Speaker? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.

Further Return To Question 414-14(3): Seniors' Fuel Subsidy
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The methodology is the same as for everyone else. The seniors do qualify for it, even if they get the seniors' fuel subsidy. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Question 415-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my questions again to the Minister of Finance about the rebate program. He indicated earlier that he would like me to be more specific about answers that he needs to give. I would suggest to him that we Members here spend a lot of time putting our questions and statements together, responding to our constituents. I think we deserve an answer. I think he should be advised to go and read those answers and answer to us.

If he cannot do that right now, I could think of the suggestion made by Mr. Bell on the graded allowances. How is he going to determine who is paying the bill? I made the suggestion about tax credits. All those things he said he would take into consideration, but it seems to me that he was just going to put it in his brain and just walk away and go with the program anyway, regardless of anything that is said here.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

I hesitated here, Ms. Lee, because you did not ask a question until I was going to interrupt. This is your second go-around, so be more specific. We are running out of question time. Specifically ask the question. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance, Minister Handley. Do you have the question?

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, certainly I will do my best to answer any questions that are asked of me. It was only yesterday that the Member was asking me questions and giving me recommendations as to how to improve the program. Give me a little bit of time here to put this all together, otherwise I have to just give you the information that we have from the original thinking on how this program is going to work, and I read that out to you.

As I said, you asked me to look at having a graduated scale, you have asked me to look at tax credits, you have asked me about a number of options. There are a whole bunch of things that were asked of us yesterday. I do have to sleep a little bit. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Handley. Supplementary, Ms. Lee.

Supplementary To Question 415-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal
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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, I think it is very reasonable for me to get really upset because the answer he gave to Mr. Roland earlier is, "Oh yeah, you want to see a draft? I will make it available to you, but it is all written out and you are not going to have any say in it." So my question is, do the Members here have any say on the criteria of who is going to get this money, what defines the income, and whether or not there should be a requirement that the people who pay the bill receive the subsidy, not just based on income? This is not an income supplement. We have...

Supplementary To Question 415-14(3): Fuel Rebate Proposal
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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Ms. Lee. We have three questions there. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance may answer any one. Mr. Handley.