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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you. Mr. Delorey.

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Paul Delorey

Paul Delorey Hay River North

Just to my question, is there any possibility that the department is going to be looking for extra money for Hay River in the near future, in the next year or so? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman, I did advise the DEA that I do not have the funding to expand this particular project beyond the $6.1 million. We did include more money last spring into the budget that was allocated to this particular project. I understand we did expand it based upon needs and so forth.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, under capital of education and culture, there has been some discussion in the community now about the Sir Alexander Mackenzie School. It is coming up in this year's planning dollars of $950,000. Samuel Hearne is down a number of years to start planning in 2004-2005. Then you tie that with the Aurora Campus facility, which falls under advanced education careers. There has been some discussions in the community with all three projects.

As they are outlined now, I would like to get a couple of bits of information, one being what class estimates are established, for the record, in the main estimates as we see them? I know the department has been involved in discussions in the community with community leaders and those above in education of discussions around capital projects. I just want for the record to have the department's position as to it mainly being in the hands of the community and seeing how they want to see this proceed. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Our officials did go to Inuvik to discuss the capital plan and we would like to have the community address any areas of concern that they may see and prioritize what they may see as their concerns. I would like to get feedback from the community on that, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you Mr. Chairman. So as it sits right now as it is laid out in the main estimates, that is the way the projects will sit for now until the community decides what avenue it wants to pursue. For the record as well, the numbers that are indicated here for Samuel Hearne School, are they a class C estimate? What class estimate are they? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you Mr. Chairman. They are initial estimates, Mr. Chairman, and yes, I have to live within the budget allocations here. As I said, because of some concerns within the community about particular allocations, I am interested in having the community provide me with some input here. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess it is an affirmative on the fact that it is in the community's decision to see which project or how they want to work together on the different initiatives. I know that they have had a number of meetings and will continue to discuss these.

The other one is the class estimate. I do not know if it is a D or a C, it is an early stage one, but that is in planning. The point that concerns me is that the Minister says that he has to live within these numbers. If the estimate is rather early and there is no real definition to what might be required, then potentially it is not going to be the need of the community in a sense of classes or student population. It is going to be based on the figure identified here. Can I have that for the record, Mr. Chairman, if that is correct?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you Mr. Chairman. I am informed that there have been technical estimates done to come up with the figures that are being used. We are fairly confident that they do represent the figures that are required for this particular allocation, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am familiar with this process now, having been through a number of budgets and seeing what is estimated and then what the actual project cost can be. When we tend to go and do some work, it is fine and dandy in a sense to look at projections when you are looking at numbers on a page with some estimates and code requirements and so on. When you actually get into the work, sometimes it is much more than was planned or bargained for.

I have a concern with that aspect of it. Hopefully at the end of the day, if the student population in Inuvik grows at a very quick pace, that will play a significant role in the numbers that are shown.

On top of that, if there has already been technical evaluations done in that area, if those can be shared with myself and the community. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, when our officials met in Inuvik, they informed the committee that they had the information with them and that they would gladly share the information with them. So I can share that information as well with the Member.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With that, maybe something for the record here on the fact that if the population, the student population grows, that would impact on the final numbers that would be identified for renovation/replacement, if that were the case. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Growth could be a factor that would have to be taken into account, Mr. Chairman, if there is strong growth in the community.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Roland.