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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my immediate right is Dr. Loretta Foley, the deputy minister of the department; Leslie Allen, the assistant deputy minister for advanced education and careers; and on my left is Paul Devitt, the director of management services.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. General comments. Detail. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I figure this is an appropriate time, since I have the Minister and the deputy minister all in one room. Can the Minister tell me what the status of the assistant deputy minister is today?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is a process in place to deal with the assistant deputy minister to be reintegrated and reinstated to her position. That is imminent, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister tell me how much longer we have to wait for this process to end?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is being coordinated by the senior deputy minister of the government. I believe that it is a very short period of time. I am not quite sure, Mr. Chairman, of the exact date that this could happen, but it has been worked out between the individuals of when this should take place with the cooperation of all individuals. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Since we are in the process of dishing out compensation, I wonder at this time if there is a need for compensation for the stress and duress we are putting this person under. Is there any consideration in regard to compensating this person for the duress she is under?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is a personnel matter. I cannot comment on that, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister tell me when he can comment on this matter?

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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman, I am not in a position to be able to even comment on that. That is totally outside of my jurisdiction and responsibility.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Will there be some sort of report filed through FMBS in regard to this process? For me it seems like it is pretty convoluted. With the process that has been taken, where it was supposed to be a three-month process it is now over four months. If that is the process we are using, it does not seem to be working. I find it frustrating, coming back from my riding and everyone is asking what the situation is with the assistant deputy minister and I, for one, have to answer to that. That is why I am asking these questions now.

I think that, personally, there should be a review taking place after this so we do not have to go through this scenario again and we have a mechanism in place to avoid these long delays in reinstating people within our government.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Minister.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is a staffing matter. Certainly, I cannot be seen to be influencing that, Mr. Chairman. There is a process in place and I am supportive of that. I do feel, at the moment, it has been handled appropriately, Mr. Chairman. As I stated, the process is underway.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With this matter, I for one feel that either I will be asking for a review or that we instruct the government that we consider such a process in light of what happened. I think that we as a government and the individuals in our public service should have some comfort that there is a clearly spelled out process, there is due process and that we do not have a situation where we hear statements being made in the press by the assistant and also yourself as a Minister and then we find out there has been a layoff for three months and now we find out there is a process. It just seems like it is ongoing.

I think we have to have some answers to this. I think you are accountable to the Members of this House and accountable to the civil servants of this government. You are the Minister. I for one feel you do have responsibility here.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

I did not hear a question. That is a comment. At this time I will recognize the clock and rise to report progress. Thank you to the Minister and his witnesses. I will see you tomorrow morning.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

The House will come back to order. Item 20, report of committee of the whole. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.