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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Handley is indicating Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, two things. If the Member would care to, outside of this House give me the details of the situation he is referring to, I can get information that would allow me to speak knowledgeably with him about the particulars. Children are referred south for medical or child welfare reasons after some fairly rigorous work with social workers, doctors, nurses, possibly psychologists, teleconferences with specialists, assessments that are done by specialists, once again psychologists, psychiatrists and doctors, and an assessment is made based on those factors that are brought to light through that kind of work. The child's file is reviewed from the time that they have come to the attention of the department. All these factors are put together. What kind of resources are available in the North and when are they available? There is a whole host of factors that is looked at on any particular situation. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to say that if I was a facility owner for taking care of these children down there and I was getting a sizeable amount of money for just taking care of them and if I was to do an assessment on them I would make sure they stayed there. That would be my income and my whole source of income, so I would make sure they stayed in the south. Do we have any specialists that we use that are away from the home who are going to make sure that we do have the expertise that we need and not something where someone makes an assessment with compensation or something? What do the used car salesmen do? For everyone that is referred to them, they get a commission. I am hoping that is not happening with us down there. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to assure the Member that we do not use the facility staff to assess the children to see whether they are going to go south. Those assessments are made and controlled and the process is run by our people in the North. When it is determined that there is no other place to go but the south, then we look at the resources that are available down south to see what the best fit is for the particular child and situation. Thank you.

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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March 12th, 2002

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Lafferty.

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister mentioned some facilities and I know the one in Yellowknife, the Nats'ejee K'eh, is empty right now and could be used. With just minor renovations maybe we can repatriate some of our children back up North because it is not being used for the purpose it was built for. Even if it is going to be in Yellowknife, I am sure the families of the children down south would be happy to see them in the North where they can visit them a lot more often than when they were down south. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, we can take a look at that kind of facility. The big issue for us is the expertise to be able to provide the service. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Page 11, children's programs, not previously authorized, $460,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Community health programs, not previously authorized, $419,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, not previously authorized, $879,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to the high number of adults in southern facilities, do you have a number there?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, there are 22 adults in placement. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister give us an idea of where these people are with regard to what type of facilities?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I can give you the names of the facilities and the location if you like, but I cannot speak to what kind of facilities they are. There is the Michener Centre, Parkland, Community Residence Program, Ranch Ehrlo, I Have a Chance, Manitoba Family Services, Integrated Services, Excell, Independent Counselling, Alberta Hospital, Calgary Alternative Support Services. Those various facilities are located in Youngstown, Red Deer, Spruce Grove, Winnipeg, Edmonton and Calgary. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Krutko.